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Phi Le wrote: <wrapped text> > Claus wrote: > > > It was, mayhap, ignorance or inexperience which caused me to misinterpret > > the situation. Different sports, different methods of learning, I gather, > and > > I come straight from rock climbing where trial and error can be used as a > method > > when training technique. This is not true to the same degree in tech diving. > > ------ > Claus, > > I think Jammer presented his point extremely well. Yep. It's not a buyer's market out there, to use an analogy. > Why are there different methods of learning ? When you are new, it is better > to listen to the people who know what's going on first. I know I have, and I > learned a lot. I still ask questions at times, mainly because I don't fully > understand certain things. A little bit of knowledge is more dangerous than > having no knowledge at all. A little bit of knowledge is never a bad thing. A little bit of knowledge combined with ignorance and arrogance is. There are several ways one can learn, each with its advantages and disadvantages. Usually you listen to the people with the knowledge; it is the interaction between the two that differ from method to method. > Rock climbing is even more strict than tech diving as there is even less > room for errors. A back clip is a back clip, and certainly you don't want to > experiment thru trial-and-error when it's time to place a pro on a > multi-pitch climb. Rock climbing is different than tech diving. Anyone could > buy some diving equipment and go kill himself. To climb, you must achieve a > certain level before you could really hurt yourself. When it comes to belay points and the methodology of setting one up, there can be little margin of error and it's common to use four independent anchor points for this very reason. When it comes to training your technique, it's another deal. On harder routes you'll find it virtually impossible to climb with a gear setup that is not close to optimal. Fatigue will take care of you if you fumble around with your gear. But when you push your limits, and serious rock climbers do it all the time, you are *bound* to fall, sooner or later. If you've set up your system correctly, this is not a problem and you'll likely bruise yourself at worst. On the very first lesson I took our instructor took us to a route on which there was a memory plate of a young women who got herself killed. Inexperience and lack of common sense was the cause. In rock climbing, as in diving, if you don't think, you're likely to get hurt. Sorry for this off-topic post, but I felt you didn't present the differences the right way. Respectfully -- Claus Lisberg, Founder of PSWEH (Poor Students With Expensive Hobbies) Nirfur prophet #1, a.a atheist #1116 "A casual stroll through an asylum will show that faith proves nothing." - F. Nietzsche -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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