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Mike I think with this post you have taken over first place as the most annoying person on Techdiver, and possibly the whole world. Let me guess, you're a trial lawyer. Sorry, Jammer, but kings can only rule so long.... Jim Sender: Mike Zimmerman Date: 7/22/98 3:53 PM >> <<Reality is that not all dive profiles fall into >> this category. >> >> >> Why?? What is option number one, Mike?? > >Dive only with the rich guys that own every possible combo of gear >so they can be "optimal" no matter what the conditions are? > >> <<what happens when you want to do that profile that require >> 15 minutes more air than you will get out of AL80's? >> >> >> You only get fifteen minutes out of an al80?? I must have read that wrong. > >Yes Al, AMAZINGLY enough you did manage to read it wrong. >Amazing how you always manage to (try to) do that to your >advantage. > >"15 minutes more" that means 15 minutes BEYOND the time you >normally get from AL80's. > >so if you would have gotten 25 minutes from the AL80's, then >for this dive that says you are wanting to get 40 minutes. >where 40 is 15 "more" than 25. > >Nice try though. > >> << At first you claimed it was for deco safety, now there are repeated >> references to backup buoyancy for the heavier tanks.>> >> >> The drysuit does both Mike, BOTH, if something can do two functions I can >> carry one less thing. > >Yes, but you are assuming there is a need for a drysuit. If there >is no need, then a 2nd bladder would be simpler. Or certainly >no more complex. > >> So why dont you listen to him, Mike?? Hmmmmmmmmm?? > >Because I forgot to attend the "lemming" class, and when I see an >inconsistancy, I point it out. > >Because as good as these guys are, they have also shown themselves >to be prone to hyperbole from time to time. > >> << not all dives will be done under "optimum" conditions.>> >> >> Again Mike you have missed the boat. You never have to dive. Ever. Just > >Interesting proposition Al, from on hgh you decree that if you >cannot dive "optimally" you should not dive at all... > >> dive. You have same deal Mike, you can dive when you want to and only then. >> If your gear is not right, THEN CHANGE YOUR GEAR. If it is not right, >whatever >> "it" might be , then DONT DIVE. > >Sorry Al, I know you'd like to get away with being a hypocrite but >remember I don't the holier-than-thou stuff doesn't wash when you >try to have it both ways at the same time. > >Now this is petty I grant you, but you're the one spouting (or >regurgitating) this fire and brimstone about optimal-only diving, >not me... > >In this case I am curious to examine some comments you made in another >thread.... on 7/16 you wrote to Tom Mount in Re: Fw: cylinders-BC's etc > >"I (Al) went in, diving my hp steel 100's in as near a hogarthian fashion >as I could.." ^^^^ > >Al, this sounds awfully like a less than "optimal" configuration. >What does "near" mean? I thought you said if you can't do it >right, you stay dry and play golf? > >As a lemming I learned long long ago that HP steel tanks are >only for strokes. I can dig out quotes from George I am sure. > >I'm being sarcastic there, but hey if you want to tow-the-line >and quote rule #1 and play Mr. Perfect, ya gotta answer to your >own music. > >Being rigidly judgemental really sucks when you forget to make >sure you don't fall under your own criticism. > >Now personally I think they are possibly just less than optimal. >But under the logic you have been using to damn the OMS wings >I'd say these tanks have to go. > >Al, you claimed you wanted to explore the issues not blast >anyone, you wanted to learn about the OMS as if you had not >drawn any conclusions already. I'd say it seems you had >your conclusions long before this thread started and >simply are trying to find ways to justify them. Otherwise >you might have been willing to allow that yes there are conditions >though less than optimal where a 2nd bladder could be useful >in the event there is no need for a drysuit. > >Mike >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Learn About Trimix at http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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