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From: "David M. Thiesfeld" <david@cw*.co*>
To: "Jammer Six" <jammer@oz*.ne*>, "Tech List" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: FW: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 20:53:52 -0700
A couple of points here:
Instructor insurance in Canada cost less than half what it does here in the
US. Common sense tells us the reason the charters in canada aren't concerned
about lawsuits is because they have better tort reform, not because they are
not assumming any liability, they just aren't worried about frivolous
lawsuits.
    The following facts were were presented by a insurance agent for one of
the major rec training agencys at a recent diving conference. Although it
was scuba specific it still applys to charters.
      1) If an instructor is directly or indirectly involved in a scuba
accident( ie.. knowingly  allowing someone to make a dive they are not
qualified for, like just being present on the dive boat) THEY WILL BE SUED.
      2) Even if the case does not stand a chance the lawsuit will CONSUME
AT LEAST 3 YEARS OF YOUR LIFE. You will eat, breathe, and sleep lawsuit.
     3) Most instructors involved in a lawsuit never teach another class
again. Negligent or not.

You can damm well bet when I charter Bryce's boat anyone blowing their deco
or exceeding they're qualification level will not be diving again. People
with this attitude aren't worth jeopardizing everything I have worked for.
   I do agree with you on one point, Sunshine Coast Tours is the best
charter I've been on, around the world.

David

www.cwscuba.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jammer Six <jammer@oz*.ne*>
To: Tech List <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Saturday, July 11, 1998 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: FW: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW


On 7/11/98 6:04, J.T. Barker, captjt@mi*.co* said:

>I will not get pulled into a show with you,you had fun at the last one, but
>everyone saw you were the fool.
>The name of my boat is the No Name 3,I also run the Miss Lindsey on
>occasion,and I Captain a tug.I answered your guestion so answer mine.
>What is the name of the Dive Boat that you give your business to.

I give my business to the best in the business.

€Sunshine Coast Tours, Madeira Park, British Columbia
€God's Pocket Resort, Port Hardy, British Columbia
€Truth Aquatics, Santa Barbara, CA.
€Rendezvous Dive Adventures, Barkley Sound, British Columbia.

None of these boats have ever even asked to see a C Card, and two of them
announce, formally, that all diving, decompression, and choices are up to
me, that they are specifically not involved. You then sign a waiver that
says exactly that, and are left alone to do as you wish.

One of them (Sunshine Coast Tours) is the finest "tech" boat in B.C., and
will let you do anything you want, and will go out of their way to make
sure you have the helium and oxygen to do it.

Why? Because they don't want any liability, and "captains" foolish enough
to place requirements on divers or dives assume some level of liability
by doing so.

The liability follows the responsibility, and the responsibility follows
the person who makes the choices. Make any of the choices, and you assume
some of the liability. Stay out of the police business, and you assume
none of the liability.

Why is that so hard to understand?

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"C'mon, you sons of bitches, you
want to live forever?"
     -First Sergeant Dan Daly, 1918
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