Capt J.T, In a message dated 98-07-10 22:52:59 EDT, you write: << So lets change this out come,then you tell me what you think.What if Jim were unable to locate the diver that did not have a liftbag.The diver is never found.The capt. will always carry the blame for having lost a diver,when infact you have 4 divers that did not follow the plan.More people will remeber the name of the boat and not the diver that was lost.Sounds to me like you owe Capt.Jim Mimms and crew I hope you tip well. After some of the harsh things said about Capt.Jim in the Jane Ornstein death,its good to hear something like this. Capt.J.T. >> ------------------------------------------------------- Blame is something that is assigned, often by the unworthy, and responsibility is something that is assumed. As long as divers and surface people do their best nothing more can be expected or asked. Yes, we do owe Jim and we dive with him regularly. He took us out on this day in spite of conditions that would normally have kept him in because he knows our ability. We went with him because we know his ability. No one would have dumped any blame on anyone here if a diver had been lost because we all accepted the risk and know that all involved are only human. The fact that they are good, conscientious, and capable humans made the risk acceptable and any assignment of blame for an accident or loss would have been unreasonable given that every man would have done all humanly possible to both avoid and ameliorate the consequences of any problems. This dive was a bit of a mess because we lost the float but all worked out well because the divers were able to handle the problems in stride. It was not a case of the divers not following the plan but of a sudden unexpected change in plan and what I consider an easy to make minor mistake in the dive leader's judgement. We are all adventurers and explorers to some degree and this carries certain responsibilities to self and others that must be accepted by all involved as well an an understanding of and preparation for unavoidable human frailties and shortcomings. This is what separates the men from the boys, not only in diving but in all life's adventures. I try to dive with "men" (male and female - young and old). It is ok to make mistakes; it is even ok to be stupid now and then. It is not ok to be spiritually slovenly, ever, and the habitually irresponsible are the epitome of the spiritually slovenly. If I were ever to die while one of these men were at the helm I would go out knowing they are busting their asses to prevent it or to save me as much as any human could and this is all I could ask. I owe it to them to do the same and because they all know I will, each of us will, all the debts remain pretty much paid up with no need to call them in when the need arises. Being prepared to function as a team member and partner means more that being willing to take risks to save a life - it means making yourself prepared by study and practice to be worth something in a crisis. These kinds of relationships don't come automatically, they are high maintenance things that demand commitment and honor, but the reward is priceless. It opens doors that can be opened in no other way - not by money, influence, or love - and it makes for a relationship between men who trustingly share adventures that most women are intensely jealous of. This is diving Mon ! Those members of the ignorant self centered masses who jump to assign blame with little knowledge of the character of those involved lack this sense of honor and spend life wallowing in the soil they make in their own beds. Honor is an alien concept to many people and they neither expect it or extend it which leaves them living a defensive suspicious life at every turn. They will expend little or no effort to be prepared to function as a team member yet they expect everyone else to be watching out for their welfare and take responsibility for their safety and happiness. The world is chocked full of them and they make me want to puke. They are the real reason for your high insurance costs and they are so stupid, short memoried, and easily bought and manipulated with shiny trinkits that what the public sheep think is pathetically insignificant to anyone with a soul to answer to. Some might say that Jim should have stopped this dive with Jane before it started but like the rest of us embroiled in this extremely complex socioeconomic fray Jim must juggle an array of needs and responsibilities that sometimes clash under conflicting pressures. I do not know the fine details of this incident and it is not my place to ask. Perhaps he decided that this was a time to act as a taxi driver or that it was not his place to intervene - you can't save everyone from themselves and none of us wants to be the scuba cop. I have no doubt that Jim carries some pain because of this because he is the type who accepts responsibility by nature and because the self is the harshest critic, not because others point a finger. Of all those involved I believe he has earned the right to forgive himself for being human "if" there is any need and he strikes me as the kind of man for whom this will be enough. From what I have read on the list it appears that the instructor was grossly negligent and it is quite possible that Jim was as much a victim of this as was Jane. It seem to me from these accounts that Jane was not prepared for this course - at the very least, she should have know better than to dive a dry suit for the first time under such conditions. And yes, I believe a student carries some responsibility to be prepared for the courses they embark upon. It is a huge mistake to expect to get everything you need to dive any specialty from the course alone without considerable personal initiative on the student's part. This works ok in the recreational realm where escape is relatively simple and accommodated by pat procedures but it is an educational habit and attitude that must not be carried over to the technical world. Finally, I would like to take this opportunity to add Rob Palmer to my list of the proven honorable. A diamond of a Scotsman and a Man's Man in all respects - lost to me in the midst of a budding friendship but carried with me always as an example of what a diver, a man, should be. If only all divers could have been influenced by him - perhaps we would have something closer to the comradery we all wish this sport represented. Well my paper is wet now and I'm sure this is more thinking than you bargained for so I will step down. May you find good partners on land and sea, Chuck Boone -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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