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Subject: RE: Bouyancy Test / was Tanks, buoyancy, et al..
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 08:56:03 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "Rowell, Ewan C" <RowelEC@te*.co*>
cc: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Now you've got me confused. Maybe this will help: I am making a basic 
premise that steel tanks for the most part are quite negative when full, 
which is not the case with AL. Therefore you have to add weight using a 
weight belt when diving AL. When using steel you generally don't use a 
weight belt (unless you are doing something silly like using an ABS 
backplate), thus the majority of your negative buoyancy is non-ditchable.

Personally I have a neoprene drysuit and with steel 104's and a 14lb 
backplate. I don't use a belt or even a Vweight. But I do use an AUL14 on 
every dive which represents about 4lbs negative, and along with reels and 
other gear, I am capable of dropping about 10lbs should I need some extra 
buoyancy (rather expensive ballast, I must say).

 Jim

Sender: Rowell, Ewan C  Date: 7/9/98 7:37 AM

>Jim,
>
>I wasn't arguing the case against dry suits.
>I'm with you on that one.
>
>You said:
>
>> And how do you make yourself neutral at the bottom with no air in your
>> 
>> primary BC  and with steel doubles & steel stages?
>> 
>Same as you would with aluminium ones, I expect.
>After all, steel or aluminium, I'm just as negative if I was weighted
>correctly at the start.
>
>> But in an emergency you can ditch the non-essentials, hammers,
>> crowbars, 
>> lights, etc. while I would imagine you would not want to ditch your 
>> stages.
>> 
>And what difference does having aluminium or steel tanks make?
>
>Surely the message is about being weighted properly, which I agree is
>critical,
>and that arguing about steel or aluminium is missing the point.
>
>Personally I'd be unwilling to do any dive that required stages in a
>wet-suit because, in order to get my weight right for stops, I enter the
>water about 25 pounds negative due to weight of gas. I'd be even heavier
>at depth due to suit compression. In a dry suit I don't have the
>additional weight AND I've got the redundant buoyancy.
>
>
>Regards, Ewan
>


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