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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1998 23:59:54 +1000
To: "Thomas A. Easop" <tomeasop@mi*.co*>
From: billyw <bdi@wh*.ne*>
Subject: Re: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW
Cc: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
At 09:18 PM 5/07/1998 -0400, Thomas A. Easop wrote:

>I reread my original two posts. Nowhere do I use the words "Its all the
students
>fault". However, that is a fair inference, I guess, since right after I wrote
that
>instructors have some blame,  I say "ultimately' it is the student's fault.**

Let's not piss about, Thomas. I referred to that post as 
your "it's all the students' fault" post since that was 
the gist of it, as you now admit. I also quoted you 
accurately. You wrote "As I have said in private threads 
with you, the students are at fault. The students who take 
these classes are adult divers, presumably with experience."

>I don't know how YOU got the idea I was 'taking the piss' out of something
else.
>YOU did that. That is another inference on your part.****

I merely gave you the benefit of the doubt. I couldn't believe 
anyone in their right mind would decide, in the face of the 
overwhelming evidence to the contrary in the last two major 
incidents, that the students were at fault.

>Yes, it is simple. Here is an analogy about the responsibility.

Thomas, your analogy stinks. Try this one: One technical training 
agency has one fatal training accident in the past year, another 
tech agency has eleven. If the students are to blame, Thomas, then 
one agency seems to have cornered the market on useless students. 
And of course, by your logic, it doesn't have to do a thing about 
the situation because it is the students' who are at fault. Is this 
reasonable or not?

Competent tech students should have recreational diving experience in the
>locality, knowledge/experience with divers already tech diving in the locality,
>and all the needed fundamental experience to take the course, like good
buoyancy
>control, conducting tasks underwater, and decompression. 

Thomas, how long ago did YOU figure steel tanks & bondage 
wings are a lethal combination?

>Sorry for such a boring, long, tedious post.

That's OK. I cut you boring, long, tedious part out, as well
as three pages of html stuff.

rgrds  billyw

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