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From: <KybrSose@ao*.co*>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 20:55:08 EDT
To: Scaleworks@ao*.co*, cobber@ci*.co*
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Zipophobes
In a message dated 6/30/98 12:30:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Scaleworks@ao*.co* writes:

> The "Mother" must be out there somewhere though, as Law enforcement uses
them
>  to handcuff 300 lb gorillas in an alcoholic rage. Don't think you can twist
>  those off with a thumb and forefinger.


Week two of unarmed self defense and tactics class at the US Army Military
Police school they teach handcuffing.

They show you how to use the zip ties, the procedure is to zip tie your bad
guy cross handed in front and then to stare at him down the barrel of your
M16a2, M9 or M60.  

 Why??

 Because the zip ties break and if your partner gets hurt because of them( or
because you  weren't watching) you will never work the road again.  (BTW,
that's Hogarthian , eh?)

For drunks you use the baton and when they are still, you use peerless hinged,
or s&w chain. 

Zip ties cannot be relied upon in life or mission critical applications. 

 cheers,

  Al Marvelli     aka  KybrSose@ao*.co*
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