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In a message dated 5/24/1998 12:42:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
techdive@ea*.ne* writes:

>   Whitney, have you ever been certified by a technical agency?  If not,
>  were did you learn how to dive caves and mix?  If so, which agencies

How does Exley and Turner sound to you.

>  If one is to fear gas, deco and what ever the hell hoovery is (must be
> one of thoughs country terms) why would they want to involve themselves
> in gas, deco and hoovery?

Fear of deco means you are so afraid of breaking you deco requirements that
you would rather let you dive buddy drown than take a bend hit.

>I could of sworn that the dive was terminated due to problems that
>Jane was having.

Interesting I heard the conditions were shit so they turn the dive.


>If a new dry suit is something that I should not dive with, than how
>long should I wait before I do?  I personally do not care for BONDAGE
>wings but, are you sure that the one's Jane was diving with as well as
> the inflator were inoperatable?

I believe the point here is that you don't stick a student on her first Trimix
dive in gear that she is not familiar with.  Lets see, never in a dry suit
before, never been to that depth before, nerver on trimx before (with multi
deco bottles to handle), diving a comm unit rated for almost a1/3 the depth.

> HUMMMM,  how did the stuffed hose play a part in this?

In the death itself probably nothing, but if I am having trouble breathing I
don't want to come up to my buddy and unwrap his hose first.  I will just take
the reg in his mouth out of necessity. If he is already on the long hose all
he has to do his drop his head and breath.  There is not a fight over a reg
with two' + of hose and everybody is happy.

> Was the new dry suit to small?(i.e. not anough lift)

I have yet to see an unconscious person inflate their own gear.



>Why did you not refill your tanks, was it the cost?  Jane was'nt going
> anywhere. This would seem by many to be alittle careless in
> itself.              ( Oh! sorry. Im speaking for others, like Dan
> does).

Considering what you are responding to this is begging the question.
Obviously they are well aware of their breathing rate and what they will use.
Can you say the same????

> If Dan only used half of an 80, was that a travel gas or a bottom gas.
> If it was a bottom gas, how come he only had an 80, and why is'nt he
> running his botton gas in his doubles?


Again begging the question!!! He had a deco stage as well.

> That is amazing.  You guys should start your own Technical training
> agency. Maybe start by slamming all the others and it may make it easier
> for you to get into the market. What do you say?

I believe that this is in the process and will be called G.U.E. Although the
thought is not on market share but increased dive safety.  As for slamming I
guess it is better if no one speaks out when they feel people are dying
needlessly.

> Well Whitney, it is amazing that you know so much about this accident.
> We have alot of accidents out here in So. Cal.(rarely technical) and
> I'll tell you that recieving such information (all information) about
> them such as you have with Janes accident is very timely unless you have
> an inside.  And if you do have a inside and speak to much about it to
> fast, certain people (folks) speak meanly to you (the officials).

Dah do you fall out of bed this morning??? Did you read the last name??? Who
the hell do you think did Janes body recovery!!!

> Last question(s), why are you as well as other team members so
> concerned with this accident anyhow?  Your team is obviously not
> promoting technical education and hazes anyone other than WKPP members
> for having fun by way of technical dives and has no obligation to
> retrieve bodies.

They were called in to do the body recovery!!! I guess that gives them the
right to be involved!  The point is not that indivduals are doing these kind
of dives but that they are doing them in such a way as to beg an accident.

First 300' ft dive (probably the first over 200'), first time switching deco
tanks out, fist time on trimix, first time to this depth with a comm unit.

You tell me is this how you teach your students? 



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