This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_895669072_boundary Content-ID: <0_895669072@in*.ma*.ao*.co*.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Tom I was not going to share this but since you have decided to share it with roger I will share it with the lists. who is roger btw I will also share my replys Alan Pelstring In a message dated 5/15/98 10:42:29 AM, TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne* wrote: >Roger >I cannot discuss much about this accident, I have told you of the steps we >have taken to investigate the incident and we have most of the information >in now, As soon as we get the ME report the BOA will be able to complete >their findings. >I can comment on a few things though. >When I first read the original post where it stated it was Janes first dive >in all the gear etc, it shocked hell out of me from two points >1. The irresponsibility of an instructor who would put all that gear on a >person and do a deep dive of any type for the first time in new equipment >and unfamiliar equipment. Thank god this was not the case >2. The second thing that horrified me was that report would make Jane appear >as a bimbo air head who was a dependency diver. Several big things I have >learned from various persons including those we contacted and those who took >it on themselves to call us is >1. Jane was a very competent and capable diver and person >2. Jane was not a dependency diver and was a confident person >3 Janes experience included dive mastering on various boats and the captains >all spoke highly about her >4. Due to Janes traits to be as self sufficient as a diver as possible >therefore also a buddy she would never jump into the water with gear she was >unfamiliar with, or do another foolish act. >5. She had dived the gear all of it before >6. Jane did not have a com unit on the bottom mix regulator (neither of >them ) However she had used the com unit on bottom mix on the Lowarance. >Jane was working on her instrucot rating >8. Jane had been doing technical training for two months already having made >several technical dives and extensive time in the pool and shallow water >doing skills >9. Jane would not have attempted that dive had she not felt she was ready >for it, her entire personality profile validates that she was that type of >person and not one to blindly follow anyone >10. Jane was most likely the best diver in the group, whatever happened to >either stress her out, or equipment failure or physiological event was not >due to her not being a confident and responsible diver. >I just had to state these things I considered posting it to the list but >decided against it. I'm sure you most likely felt the same that I did, that >is the list reports made her appear as some sort of a scuba groupie that >would blindly follow anyone without question, and from all the reports I >have gotten that is far from the truth >I have not spoke to anyone who had anything other than great respect for >Jane >In fact the divers on the dive all felt she was the last one who would ever >have a problem >Roger although I never had the privilege to meet Jane from all I have >learned about her in this investigation she certainly has my utmost respect >just as she did everyone who has contacted me. The overall opinion is she >was a lady, she was strong willed , she enjoyed diving, she had the ability >to contribute a lot to the sport. >I think you were very lucky to have had someone of Janis caliber in your >life and I can really understand the loss you must feel. Everyone loved her >as a person who knew her(at least from the reports I have had)and they all >also respected her as much as they liked her. >Tom Mount >-----Original Message----- >From: NAUI 7874 <NAUI7874@ao*.co*> >To: cavers@ca*.co* <cavers@ca*.co*>; TECHDIVER@aquanaut.com ><TECHDIVER@aquanaut.com> >Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 9:01 PM >Subject: will the real roger steele please stand up >>Roger >>I have read some of your posts and they disturb me. snip >>Alan Pelstring >----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- >Return-Path: <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*> >Received: from relay24.mx.aol.com (relay24.mail.aol.com [172.31.106.70]) by air17.mx.aol.com >(v43.10) with SMTP; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:42:29 -0400 >Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) > by relay24.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) > with ESMTP id LAA24082 for <NAUI7874@ao*.co*>; > Fri, 15 May 1998 11:42:27 -0400 (EDT) >Received: from tom ([12.70.68.106]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net > (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA28672 > for <NAUI7874@ao*.co*>; Fri, 15 May 1998 15:42:23 +0000 >From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*> >To: "NAUI 7874" <NAUI7874@ao*.co*> >Subject: Private >Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:40:06 -0400 >Message-ID: <01bd8028$8001f120$LocalHost@to*> >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 > --part0_895669072_boundary Content-ID: <0_895669072@in*.ma*.ao*.co*.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline Return-Path: <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*> Received: from relay24.mx.aol.com (relay24.mail.aol.com [172.31.106.70]) by air17.mx.aol.com (v43.10) with SMTP; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:42:29 -0400 Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by relay24.mx.aol.com (8.8.5/8.8.5/AOL-4.0.0) with ESMTP id LAA24082 for <NAUI7874@ao*.co*>; Fri, 15 May 1998 11:42:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tom ([12.70.68.106]) by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA28672 for <NAUI7874@ao*.co*>; Fri, 15 May 1998 15:42:23 +0000 From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*> To: "NAUI 7874" <NAUI7874@ao*.co*> Subject: Private Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 13:40:06 -0400 Message-ID: <01bd8028$8001f120$LocalHost@to*> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Roger I cannot discuss much about this accident, I have told you of the steps w= e have taken to investigate the incident and we have most of the informatio= n in now, As soon as we get the ME report the BOA will be able to complete their findings. I can comment on a few things though. When I first read the original post where it stated it was Janes first di= ve in all the gear etc, it shocked hell out of me from two points 1. The irresponsibility of an instructor who would put all that gear on a person and do a deep dive of any type for the first time in new equipment and unfamiliar equipment. Thank god this was not the case 2. The second thing that horrified me was that report would make Jane app= ear as a bimbo air head who was a dependency diver. Several big things I have learned from various persons including those we contacted and those who t= ook it on themselves to call us is 1. Jane was a very competent and capable diver and person 2. Jane was not a dependency diver and was a confident person 3 Janes experience included dive mastering on various boats and the capta= ins all spoke highly about her 4. Due to Janes traits to be as self sufficient as a diver as possible therefore also a buddy she would never jump into the water with gear she = was unfamiliar with, or do another foolish act. 5. She had dived the gear all of it before 6. Jane did not have a com unit on the bottom mix regulator (neither of them ) However she had used the com unit on bottom mix on the Lowarance 7. Jane was working on her instrucot rating 8. Jane had been doing technical training for two months already having m= ade several technical dives and extensive time in the pool and shallow water doing skills 9. Jane would not have attempted that dive had she not felt she was ready for it, her entire personality profile validates that she was that type o= f person and not one to blindly follow anyone 10. Jane was most likely the best diver in the group, whatever happened t= o either stress her out, or equipment failure or physiological event was no= t due to her not being a confident and responsible diver. I just had to state these things I considered posting it to the list but decided against it. I'm sure you most likely felt the same that I did, th= at is the list reports made her appear as some sort of a scuba groupie that would blindly follow anyone without question, and from all the reports I have gotten that is far from the truth I have not spoke to anyone who had anything other than great respect for Jane In fact the divers on the dive all felt she was the last one who would ev= er have a problem Roger although I never had the privilege to meet Jane from all I have learned about her in this investigation she certainly has my utmost respe= ct just as she did everyone who has contacted me. The overall opinion is she was a lady, she was strong willed , she enjoyed diving, she had the abili= ty to contribute a lot to the sport. I think you were very lucky to have had someone of Janis caliber in your life and I can really understand the loss you must feel. Everyone loved h= er as a person who knew her(at least from the reports I have had)and they al= l also respected her as much as they liked her. Tom Mount -----Original Message----- From: NAUI 7874 <NAUI7874@ao*.co*> To: cavers@ca*.co* <cavers@ca*.co*>; TECHDIVER@aquanaut.com <TECHDIVER@aquanaut.com> Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 9:01 PM Subject: will the real roger steele please stand up >Roger >I have read some of your posts and they disturb me. I have been seeking >counsiling to help me come to grips with my loss. I suggest you take i= t a >step further and seek the help of a shrink. the good Dr. could give you some >reaaal good meds. or even set up a stay in a soft room for you. > >you have know idea what you are talking about, and your willingness to s= how >your stupidity is frightening. do yourself a big favor and shut your mou= th. > >the picture you paint of yourself is of a really stupid jerk who does no= t know >his ass from a hole in the ground. > >Most importantly to me is the fact that you are going to great lenghts t= o show >grave dishonour to Jane > >the first thing you need to do is appoligize to Janes memory. > >after that keep your trap shut untill you have something inteligent to s= ay. > >Alan Pelstring > --part0_895669072_boundary-- -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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