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From: "Ken Sallot" <ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
Organization: CIRCA, University of Florida
To: "'cavers'" <cavers@ge*.co*>, "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 15:28:20 EST
Subject: Re: Fw: "Murder on IANTD Express, cont.
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Dan,

If this is true then "Derek" should have his instructor card 
revoked. If everything I have read about this incident is true, then 
there was severe gross negligence here which will only result in 
hurting this sport.

Being a former TDI trimix instructor, I would never even consider 
taking a student on their first dive in a trimix class in 300' of 
water. Let alone their first trimix dive.

My schedule was usually first dive in confined water, maybe a place 
like Orange Grove, to check on bottle handling skills, task loading, 
run some stress management drills, and simulate decompression.

However, the first trimix dive would never be deeper then 210-220', 
and that would only be in situations where I felt that the students 
were prepared for it. 

If after the first dive (the confined water drills) the student was 
not prepared for a trimix dive, then we'd do more diving in shallow 
water to work with the gear and drills.

I know it might be "allowed", but there is no reason for a trimix 
student to do their first dive to 300'. You know, in a place like 
Pompano/Lauderdale a perfect first dive for a trimix class would be 
either the Lowrance (210' on the sand) or the Hydro (175' on the 
sand). What the hell were they doing at 300'?

As for not having enough "gas to do the rescue", what good would this 
guy have been at depth if the student ran out of gas?

Also, what's the story with those dive communicator things? Jesus 
this is really scary. 

Although I don't necessarily agree with the tone of some of the other 
messages in this thread, you do have to question what the hell is 
going on when the trimix training fatalities for 1998 are 
overwhelmingly high.

Ken


> From:          "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
> To:            "'cavers'" <cavers@ge*.co*>
> Subject:       Fw: "Murder on IANTD Express, cont.
> Date:          Mon, 4 May 1998 14:37:00 -0400

> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>
> To: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Monday, May 04, 1998 2:26 PM
> Subject: "Murder on IANTD Express, cont.
> 
> 
> 
> I just heard that this cowardly piece of shit named Derek, the IANTD
> instructor, says that the REASON he did not go down after  his
> student----the one whose life he was sworn to protect,  was because he did
> not think he had enough gas left !!!!!!!!!
> And this was after somewhere between a 5 minute and 13 minute bottom time,
> depending on which version you are hearing.
> 
> Derek, if you read this, you have no balls, and you deserve to be in jail.
> If you don't get thrown in jail, I can only hope to end up on a dive boat
> with you some day, and have the opportunity to tell you to your face what a
> spineless, cowardly murderer you are.
> 
> Derek,  George did three dives on half the gas you had, and still had plenty
> left over---what are you, some kind of human sucking machine???? What else
> do you suck???Maybe Mount  can set you up for business in Key West, as a
> "Population Control Specialist". How about having the "balls to respond".
> 
> Dan Volker
> 
> 
> 
> 
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