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From: "Tony Matheis" <tonym510@fl*.co*>
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1998 20:39:24 -0500
Subject: Re: DECO help
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
I thought that anyone on O2 was supposed to monitored continuously and 
not left alone. If that is the case then why remove the one valve...??

On  3 Apr 98 at 18:53, DOUG MATHIESON wrote:

> Date:          Fri, 03 Apr 1998 18:53:29 -0500
> From:          DOUG MATHIESON <mathieson@go*.ne*>
> To:            Steve Lindblom <s_lindblom@co*.co*>
> Cc:            techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject:       Re: DECO help

> 
> 
> Steve Lindblom wrote:
> 
> > >By using the partial mask , which has one of the one way valves removed, if
> > >the oxygen supply becomes depleted the patient will still be able to
breathe
> > >through the open port
> >
> > I think you've got the partial rebreather confused with the modified non-
> > rebreathers that seem to be all you can buy these days. The difference
> > between a non-rebreather and a partial rebreather is that the non- has a
> > one way valve between the reservoir and the mask, so none of the exhalation
> > goes back into the reservoir. A partial rebreather doesn't and can't
> > provide more than 60% no matter what the flow.
> >
> > Unfortunately, for the reasons you mention, the non-rebreather masks
> > available have been modified by putting the air vent in place of one of the
> > two exhalation valves they used to have
> >
> > This is probably a good idea in general, but not for dive/DCS treatment,
> > where achieving a high PO2 is more important than it is in most other
> > emergency situations.
> >
> > The other problem with the vent is that, along with making it impossible to
> > obtain FO2's over 90% or so, it requires really cranking up the flow to get
> > even that. Once again, not a problem for med/EMT types, who have unlimted
> > O2 on hand, but a drag with a single D tank and an hour from shore.
> >
> >  The OXY HACKER suggests pirating a valve from another mask and fitting it
> > to the  non-rebreather mask in your dive O2 kit, taping over the air hole,
> > or covering it with a finger in order to get the highest possible FO2.
> >
> >  If anyone knows of a source of the old style masks without the hole, let
> > us know - I'd really like to get some. It's too bad DAN won't address this,
> > considering how they are always going on about how critical that last 5-10%
> > of O2 is.
> >
> > --
> 
> The mask we are using in Canada is what i believe you are calling a
> modified non rebreather. there is a oneway valve between the reservoir
> bag and the mask and two valves on the mask with one removed to let in
> room air in case your tank runs dry.
> 
> It is simple enough to attach a tab to the open port if you really want
> the extra O2 % which i certainly would be doing with DCS or a bad CHF
> 
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Cheers

Tony
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