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Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:54:26 -0500
From: "Thomas A. Easop" <tae@pe*.ne*>
Organization: EPI
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
CC: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: OMS wings problems
Jim Cobb wrote:

> >When was the last time you orally inflated anything on a tech dive???
>
> What kind of stupid question is that? You are saying that all manual
> inflators should be removed from all BCs becauses YOU have never used
> one? Say, you don't have a bucket on your head, do you?

No bucket here, in fact, I learned to dive a long time ago, when there were no
autoinflators. Everything was manual, I did plenty of manual inflation, and
auto inflators were considered uneeded and 'tekkie'. Today they are SOP. And I
didn't say anyone had to do anything, or remove anything. I just asked a pretty
simple and intelligent question. You said "in my experience" so I asked for you
to explain your experience. But I guess the 'experience' you are refering to is
your conjecture.

> >I would like to hear of your personal CF experience where the 2nd inflator
> >contributed to the task load.
>
> OK, it was a dark and story night... Listen, numbnuts, remember that
> first time you tried to take off your girlfriends bra (assuming you're
> not a homo), didn't it piss you off when you discovered that there was
> not 1, not 2, but 3 or even more clips back there? Why were there so many
> clips, because 1 could not do the job? No, because the No.1 fear of
> adolescent girls is that a single clip might fail and the goodies will
> fall out for every to see. So the bra manufacturers outdid themselves by
> adding multiple clips to satisfy the "1 clip theory" girlish paranoia.

My first girlfriend did not have any of this paranoia, had the front clip type
bra, and took it off when I politely asked her to so I never did have to
struggle like your 'experience'.

> Thusly,  OMS stuper bondage wings are the training bra of the Tech diver
> industry. Easop, one day you too will graduate to a "1 clip" once you
> overcome your adolescent, irrational fear of the unknown.

This irrational fear of the unkown is foriegn to me. I have seen with my own
eyes inflators and bladders fail on dives. And I have never had the bungees
force air out of my wings or been entangled by my backup inflator even when it
was not elegantly configured out of the way. Also I have used my drysuit as
backup BC on tech dives and I do not trust the neck seal, and it is very
uncomfortable, my rate minute volume went way up.

Most of all, I have only heard conjecture about how bondage double bladder
wings are dangerous. No one has posted substantiated accounts of them causing
incidents or deaths, which brings us back to the origianl posts. Trusting the
cave diving elite in Florida with their propensity for exageration and making
unsubstantiated claims is impossible. Put up or shut up. Where are the accounts
of these wings causing deaths?

Tom

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