Mailing List Archive

Mailing List: techdiver

Banner Advert

Message Display

Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 08:10:12 -0600
To: "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>, "techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
From: Roy Roper <rroper@be*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Stronger Fins

The new OmerSub's come in open heeled versions.

At  2/23/98 5:02 PM -0600, Dan Volker  wrote--------:
> For foot sizes of 10 or larger, with most Dry suits, you will probably be
>stuck with the open heel version of Esclapez or OMER ( I'll have to check
>with OMER to make sure they have an open heeled version). The Esclapez Green
>or Black fins will come in open heel with strap, and the dry suit is the
>only justification for the existance of the open heel fin. The Esclapez
>blacks are pretty stiff, meaning you need some strong legs if they are your
>choice. While any of these Esclapez or OMER fins will blow away scubapro or
>other scuba type designs, if you ever get to try a perfect, snug fit, with
>the full foot version with a wet suit or skin suit, you will be amazed at
>how much power transfer you lose with an open heel design.  When you
>freedive, you get more "tuned in" to efficiency and power loss, because of
>the nature of your "breath hold diving", you are involved in a constant
>study of how to maximize propulsion while minimizing exertion. You become
>aware of every nuance of efficiency. This becomes significant as you notice
>that virtualy all top freedivers swear by full foot fins. And there  are TWO
>examples of freediving fins which are poor--i.e., don't get---the AB Biller
>fins, which are too flexible (noodly) and brittle, and the old Cressi
>Rondine Garas ( not to be confused with the new Cressi Gara 2000's, which
>are good). The Cressi Rondine Garas are also far too soft and "noodly" for
>your use with doubles.  And I'm sure no one would ever consider the moronic
>joke by Zeagle which they call the Raptor fins----they are NOT freediving
>fins----perhaps they should be placed in a package with OMS Bondage wings,
>two non-redundant Cochran computers, 4 steel 98's, and a nice thick
>wetsuit---maybe we could even get Tom Mount or Brett Gilliam to "model" them
>for us :)
>Dan
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mike Wells <mike.wells@cm*.co*>
>To: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>
>Date: Monday, February 23, 1998 5:12 PM
>Subject: Re: Stronger Fins
>
>
>
>>Dan,
>>What about us cold water divers that dive dry?  Are the open heeled
>>versions of these fins a good option for us?  I would assume that the
>>freedivers up in the north probably use such a fin, huh?  Your
>>suggestions would be appreciated.    :-)
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Mike
>>
>>I tried a freediving fin once in a pool and was *very amazed* to say the
>>least, and was then told they were no good for scuba, but couldn't get an
>>explanation as to why.
>>
>>
>>
>>>Subject:     Re: Stronger Fins
>>>Sent:        2/23/98 5:59 AM
>>>Received:    2/23/98 1:23 PM
>>>From:        Dan Volker, dlv@ga*.ne*
>>>To:          techdiver, techdiver@aquanaut.com
>>>             Andrew Drapp, andrew@ce*.co*.jp*
>>>
>>> Any diver that wants to swim faster and more efficiently, should get
>>>freediving fins. For  most active divers, Esclapez Green fins, or Cressi
>>>Gara 2000's , will be infinitely better than any scuba fin on the market.
>>>If you are really strong, you can go to a competition freediving fin, like
>>>the OMER Tuna Comp, or the Esclapez No Limit.
>>>When I use fins like even my Esclapez greens, divers with normal scooters
>>>can not keep up to me, if I'm traveling at full pace ( a speed I'll
>maintain
>>>for up to an hour).  The cressi frogs and other scuba fins with small
>>>changes to make them look more powerful, are a joke. Try the freediving
>fins
>>>I named, in a full foot design, with neoprene socks, and you will NEVER go
>>>back to crappy scuba fins, except in cave environments where the 34 inch
>>>blade length may make it easier to silt up the cave. Dan
>>>
>>
>
>--
>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.



--
Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'.
Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.

Navigate by Author: [Previous] [Next] [Author Search Index]
Navigate by Subject: [Previous] [Next] [Subject Search Index]

[Send Reply] [Send Message with New Topic]

[Search Selection] [Mailing List Home] [Home]