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Date: Mon, 9 Feb 1998 20:49:19 -0800 (PST)
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>, <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>,
From: Jeremy Downs <dcrco@jp*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Roger Steele: Awaiting Your Answer

You forgot Missavage was in a TDI DA class at the time and also there was
the South African incident. I know were forgetting several others.


At 01:04 PM 2/9/98 -0500, Jim Cobb wrote:
>Roger-
>
>Deaths, deaths everywhere. I love this thread, it's such good copy for 
>TDI. How long are you going to drag it on, goose boy?
>
>Rob Palmer: TDI Cause of Death:  Deep air contributed to or directly
>caused:
>
>Rob Parker: TDI  Cause of Death: Deep Air contributed to or directly
>caused:
>
>Dennis Sirven: TDI  Cause of Death: Deep Air complicated by
>intocxication with alcohol and marijuana
>
>Douglas Missavage: TDI  Cause of Death: Deep Air contributed to or
>directly caused
>
>A rebreather training death in Hawaii (I don't know the name of the
>individual however a lawsuit is now pending.)
>
>And now a new person to add to the list involving a TDI shop in 
>Australia, in  a breaking story:
>
>On Saturday January 31, five divers from Newcastle 
>just north of Sydney, dived on the Advance, a sunken
>collier at 48 metres (158 ft).
>
>All five dived independently. Bottom time was approx 20 
>minutes. Only four surfaced.
>
>After 90 minutes the surviving divers re-descended to 
>look for the missing diver. They found him on the bottom, 
>dead.
>
>In a typical deep-air clusterfuck, the divers were unable 
>to figure out how to raise his body - get gas into his bc
>or release his weight belt. So they decided to cut the
>weightbelt off him with a diving knife. In doing so, they 
>managed to put some stab wounds into the corpse.
>
>The dead diver was an American living in Newcastle. He
>went diving with the Newcastle Cave & Tech Dive Shop at 
>Swansea. Until the coroners report is in, it isn't known 
>whether his death adds to the horrible deep air tally of 
>the past year, or was due to some kind of illness.
>
>But one thing is apparent. Only deep air could turn a 
>simple body recovery into a horrible fuck-up like this.
>
>Roger, how about it if this was YOUR cold, stiff corpse floating on the 
>bottom of some godforsaken quarry. A bunch of narced idiots stabbing you 
>through to cut off your weight belt? How can you promote this shit?
>
>  Jim
>
>On 2/9/98 11:46 AM roger steele wrote:
>
>>Oh my Gosh.  The word is out.  First, please don't hurt me.  Your 
>>posting leads me to believe that you are aggrevated with me.  I'm sorry.  
>>Please, be nice, I'm only a neophyte.  Now, lets continue.  First, Your 
>>posting of 5 out of 8 deaths is impressive, except for one thing.  You 
>>do not support these statistics with the agency that compiled them.  You 
>>see, it is hard for me just to "take your word for it" when your 
>>postings are of this nature.  You see, ad hominem attacks do not impress 
>>me.  Your posting is nothing more than this.  Please, give me the source 
>>of this information.  I know that you have it.  Is it DAN, or another 
>>organization?  You see, The Cobber man told me one time that this 
>>information does not exist or it is next to impossible to get.  Check 
>>the archives.  You obviously have this information.  Share your source 
>>with me and the rest of the list.  
>
>
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