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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:09:27 +0000
To: "David Shimell (shimell)" <shimell@se*.co*>
Cc: "'Jim Cobb'" <cobber@ci*.co*>, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
From: Chris Hellas <chris@de*.de*.co*.uk*>
Subject: Re: Pony Bottles
In message <34CC8700@uk*.uk*.se*.co*>, "David Shimell (shimell)"
<shimell@se*.co*> writes
>
>Jim
>
>I agree with your other points that I have snipped but have some views on   
>your points on the pressure gauge:
>
>> -How do you check the pressure of your pony while underwater?
>> -If you use a gauge, how do you have the gauge rigged?
>
>Why put a pressure gauge on the pony cylinder in the first place.  This   
>is a point of failure.  Gauges are only needed on stages if they are   
>breathed to thirds - you have to know the contents to know when to stop   
>breathing from them.

Dave
     Are you suggesting that a stage cylinder is OK minus a gauge if
'thirds' is not being applied?

>
>BSAC train the following practice.  Breath your primary supply down to   
>the reserve level (i.e. the pressure at which you planned to be back on   
>the boat), then switch to the backup supply (pony in this case).  This   
>ensures that the reserve in your primary remains intact at this point and   
>that the correct functioning of the pony is confirmed.  Once on the pony   
>it can be breathed down until breathing resistance is felt and then the   
>switch is made back to the primary supply reserve.

Pony cylinders have a very limited application in non mandatory deco
diving at (dependant on your views) 0 to 30 metre range. They 'arrived'
on the scene as an emergency piece of equipment to enable a return to
the surface in the event of a total failure on the primary cylinder (we
are talking single cylinder, single pillar valve). Not sure where this
scenario you are advocating has come from - it sure looks like a recipe
for disaster to me and would smack of bad dive planning and conduct.

>
>The need for a pony pressure gauge is even more reduced if the diver   
>adopts an incorrect procedure and breaths the primary dry before   
>switching to the pony - you either have enough gas or you don't - a   
>pressure gauge really doesn't help.

Hmmmm.... see my comment above on dive planning & conduct.

>
>The pressure gauge on the pony is a comforter and nothing else!

I thought the pony was the comforter!

>
>Now, just to counter my own point: I guess a poorly trained, poorly   
>configured recreational diver (a Scubie Doo) may feel a bit aghast at the   
>idea of doing a regulator switch or two in a stressed situation and even   
>more aghast at not having the comfort of knowing the pony pressure.

Ah Ha - back to the old training issue - on the nail Dave!


Regards

 
Chris Hellas         e-mail - chris@de*.de*.co*.uk*
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