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Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:37:55 -0500
From: Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>
To: Dean L Derk <twinds@ju*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: BAD NEWS: Fallout from the WPB tragedy
Dean,

If that is in fact your actual name, which is highly dobutful. I don't
give a hoot about what a phoney, email nickel rocket,  personal
preference stroke like you thinks about what I say. Get this straight,
the WKPP operates under exemptions and permits issued by government
agencies, including extensive liability waivers which exempt our gas
suppliers from tortious actions.  Take the cotton out of your ears
Derky, we are not talking abouts laws here, merely policies adopted by
private companies to avoid liability. In general this has hurt all of
us, especially when we are diving outside the aegis of the WKPP.  Why do
think I put this out?

Dean or whatever your real name is, why don't you mail me from your real
account so that I can entertain everyone with your intelleigent
commentary and give then an actual address to send you many polite
responses?

GFY



Dean L Jerk wrote:
> 
> Bill Mee you are the biggest ass hole I
> have ever heard talking on this list.
> Any regulations inposed on this form of
> diving will most certainly effect the WKPP
> due to the type of diving they do. Laws are
> written in general and for all. They will not
> state that the WKPP is exempt. This, if it
> happens will hurt all of us.
> Dean
> 
> On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:05:26 -0500 Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*> writes:
> >Predictably, we are now beginning to observe the inevitable fallout
> >from
> >the single worst technical diving accident, ever. Independently, one
> >of
> >the largest gas suppliers in the Southeast, Tri-Gas, has reported that
> >they are considering a total ban on the sale of Helium and other gases
> >for the purpose of diving.  This, they say,  is a direct result of
> >liability issues raised following the well publicized WPB tragedy.
> >
> >I hope that the consequences of this policy are not lost on our
> >friends
> >in the technical diving instructional community.  While Divers Supply
> >has probably lost there taste for deep offshore instruction in tri-mix
> >diving, I am sure that there are many others around the country who
> >still plan to make a go of this.  I would think that  IANTD, TDI,
> >ANDI,
> >NAUI and PADI,  to name just a few, have no active plans afoot to
> >remove
> >tri-mix from their present or future curricula.
> >
> > It would be unfair to place all of the blame on the folks at Divers
> >Supply for this unhappy turn of events in that the sort of "former"
> >behaviors tolerated at their operation are pandemic throughout
> >technical
> >diving. It was just a matter of time before a similar event transpired
> >somewhere else.
> >
> >Still, I can only speculate that if Divers Supply had not become
> >involved with preventing the WKPP from recovering material associated
> >with the WPB tragedy in a timely fashion, we might have quickly
> >absolved
> >the role of breathing gases as contributory to the fatalities.
> >Instead, these people continue to complain about "malicious attacks"
> >by
> >a few on the Internet (sound familiar?) as well as the "slanderous and
> >malice(sic) behavior that's been demonstrated on the internet".  In
> >other words it's our fault that these three people are dead and that
> >we
> >have no right to discuss the context of this tragedy as it relates to
> >diving, especially in light of the fact that the primary focus of this
> >discussion list is technical diving. Perish the thought that freedom
> >of
> >speech and opinion be exercised unconstrained.
> >
> > PLEASE  read Dan Volker's articulate and thoughtful recent piece on
> >this matter. Dan discusses the problems and known specifics of the
> >accident, what measures should be taken to prevent reoccurrence and
> >the
> >role of Divers Supply in  actively interfering with the recovery
> >efforts
> >of the WKPP.
> >
> >Australia openly outlaws some forms of technical diving.  Now
> >"technical
> >diving" will be de facto outlawed here by the unavailability of
> >breathing gas.  The WKPP will still be able to obtain gas and dive
> >it's
> >permitted sites, but what about you?
> >
> >There are plenty of people out there who passionately hate George
> >Irvine
> >for his self appointed role as dive industry pundit and harbinger of
> >doom, if equipment, training practices and procedures are not cleaned
> >up.  Well, for all of those personal preference, thin skinned types
> >out
> >there, your boys have really hit it out of the ball park now. In fact
> >now may be a good time to sell your "techno" dive gear and sign up for
> >golf lessons instead of advanced trimix.
> >
> >Sorry folks,
> >
> >Bill Mee
> >
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