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A comment on your point "number 2" - you seem to be pretty adamantly demanding that someone else do a great deal of research in order to satisfy YOUR curiosity or whatever it is about the validity of posted statistics. To accuse another man of being too lazy to do this work for you seems a bit absurd. Don't you think? Your comments to replies leave me stymied. You appear to agree with the substance of a well rendered response, and come right back to your demands for substantiated facts. Draw your own conclusions from the data presented thus far Roger. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the connections between deep air / "deep END" diving and clustery and death. Nowhere is it written that violation of a particular END is going to kill you. It's the confusion, stupidity, loss of reasoning and prioritization abilities that occur under the influence of any narcotic substance that kills. If you dive event free under these conditions the worst you've done to yourself is a bit of physiological damage and short-term memory loss. But hey, at least you scored the sappy grin again for a few moments.... I'm not saying you advocate deep air diving sir, but you sure are picking some serious nits in this debate. By the way - coloring your demands for substantiated data and relevent statistics as intelligent discussion does little to convince me that you aren't a grinning little troll out there in hotmail-ville. (I'm sure you're not) So whattaya say? Be a stand-up guy - give a little and stop giving Cobb such a hard time. It'd mean alot to him. :) Drew roger steele wrote: > Point taken. The information that I am requesting is probably difficult > to get. Analysis of the information will be even more difficult. > However, this is the price to pay in order to substantiate claims. Mr. > Cobb's statements that it is just too hard does not hold water. Who > cares. If the issue is really that important to him, he should be > chomping at the bit to prove his point. I believe Mr. Cobb falls into > one of the following categories: 1. The issue is not that important to > him, in spite of what he says. 2. He is too lazy to initiate this > project, even with someone's help. 3. He is afraid of what the > statistics will actually show. 4. He is confused about what I am > saying and might be able straighten it all out. (This is not meant as a > derogatory statement about Mr. Cobb. Rather, it is the hope that he > will realize that my statements do not mean "My name is Roger, I love > deep air, I want to get high, I think I can justify diving on air to 500 > ft.") All of his responses have been in this vein. This is ridiculous. > It is almost a scripted response. Maybe this is because of people like > "Buttplug" at deepair.com. But, due to my writing style and Buttplug's, > he ought to be able to tell the difference. > > >From nssdiver@ju*.co* Thu Jan 22 14:31:34 1998 > >Received: (from nssdiver@ju*.co*) > > by x4.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id RSZ11624; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 > 17:22:22 EST > >To: dlv@ga*.ne* > >Cc: rogersteele@ho*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:23:17 -0500 > >Subject: Issues 1-5 > >Message-ID: <19980122.172346.18118.1.NSSDiver@ju*.co*> > >References: <199801221904.OAA97756@ch*.ga*.ne*> > >X-Mailer: Juno 1.38 > >X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-9,14-15,20-23 > >From: nssdiver@ju*.co* (Lee C Kresge) > > > >On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:12:29 -0500 "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*> writes: > >> Let me help :) you guys in this argument a little. > >> > ><snip> > >> > >>So what the hell are you guys really arguing about :) > >>Regards, > >>Dan Volker > >> > >> > >How to shut down the TDI School for Safer Drunk Driving w/o shutting > >down, regulating, or outlawing the Safe Driving schools. How else do > you > >do that w/o pinning the responsibility of drunk driving deaths on the > >only agency that is still teaching it? Anyone have a better way of > doing > >it. The current approach doesn't seem to be working all that well. . . > > > >Roger may think he can just access or have the information he wants > >delivered on request, and for that he may be a little naive. But at > >least he's thinking/trying. If the same effort went into helping him > >instead of slamming him, he may of gotten somewhere by now, or come up > w/ > >a better idea. . . > > > > > >Lee > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ > >You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > >Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com > >Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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