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Subject: Re: Deeptech
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 98 20:49:37 -0500
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Roger-

What, exactly, claims are you referring to? If I made any claims, I don't 
recall doing so. Badmouthing, yes, slander, possibly, but claims?

I have seen DAN data and they specifically exclude training agency. They 
don't want to step on any toes and especially don't want to get sued.

The only resource I could think of would be a Lexas/Nexas search and I 
don't  have that kind of money. Even then it is rare when the agency is 
mentioned. Look at all the clippings about the recent massacre down in 
WPB. Not once is IANDT mentioned except on this list.

I have all the facts I need. I can go down to my local dive center, 
pickup and cheezy DEEP AIR TRAINING course guide from TDI and there it is 
in black and white.

Due to pressure I believe created on this list, IANDT and PSI have 
officially changed their polocies regarding deepair, TDI being the loan 
holdout. Why are they the loan holdout? Because of a number of pending 
lawsuits by various parties are preventing TDI from changing horses in 
mid-stream. Lets just say it would look bad.

This list, Roger, this list is a powerful tool for spreading the word 
that you don't have to do Deepair to find diving nirvana. By saying the 
things that I and many other do about TDI will keep people from going to 
them and avoiding deepair in general.

   Jim

On 1/22/98 5:12 PM roger steele wrote:

>If these statistics are non-existent or impossible to get to, what are  
>you basing your claims upon?  I do not know whether these statistics 
>exist or not.  That is why I am asking you. In fact, if you have known 
>this all along, why are you just now making this claim?  Have you 
>inquired to DAN for these statistics?  I doubt it.  You have a very 
>difficult problem to surmount now.  By this statement you have admitted 
>that you have no factual evidence to support your various claims of 
>negligence by TDI.  On the other hand, if you do inquire to DAN  and do 
>find relevant statistics, you will in essence defeat the argument that 
>you have presented below.  (To make this absolutely clear: you claim 
>below that I know that this information does not exist.  Therefore, I 
>ask the impossible of you.  If you do initiate a search and find 
>information, this claim will be proven to be false. On the positive 
>side, you might find evidence for your claims.  This will be a step 
>forward for you, since you don't have this information now and therefore 
>cannot support your claims.)  Stating that my arguments are lame is easy 
>to do, proving that they are is much harder.  But, all I ask is that you 
>do research, and report back.  I will take your claims very seriously at 
>that point, if the evidence supports them. In fact, I will join you.
>
>Roger


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