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Roger, if indeed that is your real name, which we all doubt due to the hotmail account which most of us would rarely, if ever, respond to: It (TDI) is a dead issue, no pun intended. Well, maybe a little pun was intened. Now, go away, please. Trout ---------- > From: roger steele <rogersteele@ho*.co*> > To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > Subject: Fwd: Re: DeepTech > Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 5:45 AM > > I did not receive a reply from anyone on the list concerning the > questions below. I am sure, since many people on this list seem to be > convinced of the unsafe teaching practices of TDI, that there must be > strong statistical proof to support these conclusions. Please respond > at your leisure. > > >From owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com Fri Jan 16 08:36:23 1998 > >Received: (mail@lo*) > > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) for > > id JAA29479; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:50:57 -0500 > >Precedence: bulk > >Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) > > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with EXEC for techdiver > > id JAA27261; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:27:32 -0500 > >Received: from hotmail.com (F70.hotmail.com [207.82.250.156]) > > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with SMTP for > <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > > id JAA27251; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:27:31 -0500 > >Received: (qmail 3612 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jan 1998 14:26:58 -0000 > >Message-ID: <19980116142658.3611.qmail@ho*.co*> > >Received: from 206.26.190.166 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; > > Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:26:57 PST > >X-Originating-IP: [206.26.190.166] > >From: "roger steele" <rogersteele@ho*.co*> > >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com > >Cc: Tek_Dive@co*.co* > >Subject: Re: DeepTech > >Content-Type: text/plain > >Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:26:57 CST > > > >I would like to know the statistical corellation between Deep Air > Deaths > >and TDI certified divers in 1996 and 1997? In other words, how many > >people died diving deep on air in 1996 and '97 who were certified by > >TDI? > > > >Also, of the deaths associated with scuba diving in this same time > >frame, what is the percentage of this number that can be associated > with > >Deep Air?? (Deaths occuring below 130ft on air?) > > > >>From owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com Thu Jan 15 19:35:21 1998 > >>Received: (mail@lo*) > >> by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) for > >> id VAA26543; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:09:21 -0500 > >>Precedence: bulk > >>Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com > >>Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) > >> by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with EXEC for techdiver > >> id VAA25778; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:01:09 -0500 > >>Message-Id: <199801160201.VAA25770@bi*.te*.ne*> > >>Received: from [206.246.204.137] ([206.246.204.137] (may be forged)) > >> by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with ESMTP for > ><techdiver@aquanaut.com> > >> id VAA25770; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:01:08 -0500 > >>Received: from 206.246.204.142 by 206.246.204.137 > >> with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for MacOS 1.0.2); 15 JAN 98 > >21:00:55 UT > >>Subject: DeepTech > >>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 21:01:07 -0500 > >>x-sender: cobber@ma*.ci*.co* > >>x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 > >>From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> > >>To: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Cavers List" > ><cavers@ge*.co*> > >>Mime-Version: 1.0 > >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >> > >><In my ongoing effort to save my fellow divers money, here is yet > >another > >>review of a lame dive magazine> > >> > >>Much to my surprise when I got home today what was in my mailbox? A > >copy > >>of issue 10 of DeepTech. For some mysterious reason my subscription > >seems > >>to have started up again. I don't know wether to laugh or cry. But > this > >>is fortuitous because now I can save you guy's $9.95 (or however much > >>your local dive shop is nailing you for). > >> > >>Let's see. In the letter section there are 4 letters from Brett > >Gilliams > >>Brown Nose Club telling him what a GOD he is for devoting an entire > >issue > >>to slandering George Irvine. One guy, Kevin J. Freeland, does not only > >>kiss Gilliams butt, but he crawls up it and gives Bretts intestines a > >new > >>white-wash job. He has something to do with Gulf Coast Dive Pros, > >>probably an establishment to avoid. > >> > >>Mike Kravit's letter shows up and Gilliam gives one of his classic > cock > >>and bull responces, and I quote: > >> > >>"It's not about advocating unsafe diving practices (which none of us > >do); > >>it's about how persons choose to conduct themselves in society" > >> > >>So let me get this straight, it does not matter that all these TDI > >people > >>died doing TDI sanctioned deep air dives, it's about the fact that > they > >>did not get on the internet and offend people? Well, now there's a > >twist. > >> > >>"Personally, Idon't spend a minute of my day wasting my time on him, > >I've > >>simply got better things to do" > >> > >>Anyone who has spent any time on these list knows what a black-faced > >lie > >>this is. I believe the Gilliam does not spend a waking hour without > >>plotting on how to fuck with G. > >> > >>Well, enough of that bullshit. Moving on we have an article by Guess > >Who > >>on, drumroll please, decompression sickness. For a minute there I > >thought > >>I was reading Dive Training, this article would fit in perfectly. > Some > >>nuggets from this intense, fact filled treatise: > >> > >>"Contributory Factors To DCS- Depth, Time, Rate of release (dive > >profile)" > >> > >>Well, I'll be danged, I didn't know that! The rest of the article > looks > >>like a re-write of a PADI manual. I think this is called "filler"? > >> > >>Moving right along.. Exercise during decompression? Egghead > >mumbo-jumbo, > >>Doppler says yes, but can you doppler slow tissues? Don't think so. > >hmmmm. > >> > >>Portable chambers- there's about 4 of them. > >> > >>Florida's Wreck Valley- Another informative fluff piece by HFS, go's > >into > >>what great buddies he and Tom Mount are, must have been written before > >>the big falling out... Yup, says he was finishing up photos for Mixed > >Gas > >>Diving, pub. '93. Boy, blowing some dust off the old reject pile, > >Brett? > >> > >>Ad's, ad's from the usual suspects. > >> > >>Next a 100 word art on side mounts by Brett's best friend, Lamar > Hires. > >>Take a transpak and clip some stage bottles on the side. There ya go! > >> > >>Now this is ironic, a blue hole expedition article. Spooky. > >> > >>Finally an interview with Lamar Hires, as I'm not a caver, I won't > >>comment on this one, but it was pretty boaring. > >> > >>Very few ad's in this issue. Could it be that companies are a bit > >nervous > >>being associated with with magazines devoted to deep air and personal > >>vendetas? Time will tell... > >> > >>There you go, I've just saved you guys another $10.00. > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Learn About Trimix At http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > >> > > > > > >______________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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