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I did not receive a reply from anyone on the list concerning the questions below. I am sure, since many people on this list seem to be convinced of the unsafe teaching practices of TDI, that there must be strong statistical proof to support these conclusions. Please respond at your leisure. >From owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com Fri Jan 16 08:36:23 1998 >Received: (mail@lo*) > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) for > id JAA29479; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:50:57 -0500 >Precedence: bulk >Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com >Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with EXEC for techdiver > id JAA27261; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:27:32 -0500 >Received: from hotmail.com (F70.hotmail.com [207.82.250.156]) > by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with SMTP for <techdiver@aquanaut.com> > id JAA27251; Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:27:31 -0500 >Received: (qmail 3612 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jan 1998 14:26:58 -0000 >Message-ID: <19980116142658.3611.qmail@ho*.co*> >Received: from 206.26.190.166 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; > Fri, 16 Jan 1998 06:26:57 PST >X-Originating-IP: [206.26.190.166] >From: "roger steele" <rogersteele@ho*.co*> >To: techdiver@aquanaut.com >Cc: Tek_Dive@co*.co* >Subject: Re: DeepTech >Content-Type: text/plain >Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:26:57 CST > >I would like to know the statistical corellation between Deep Air Deaths >and TDI certified divers in 1996 and 1997? In other words, how many >people died diving deep on air in 1996 and '97 who were certified by >TDI? > >Also, of the deaths associated with scuba diving in this same time >frame, what is the percentage of this number that can be associated with >Deep Air?? (Deaths occuring below 130ft on air?) > >>From owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com Thu Jan 15 19:35:21 1998 >>Received: (mail@lo*) >> by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) for >> id VAA26543; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:09:21 -0500 >>Precedence: bulk >>Errors-To: owner-techdiver@aquanaut.com >>Received: from bighorn.terra.net (root@lo*) >> by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with EXEC for techdiver >> id VAA25778; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:01:09 -0500 >>Message-Id: <199801160201.VAA25770@bi*.te*.ne*> >>Received: from [206.246.204.137] ([206.246.204.137] (may be forged)) >> by bighorn.terra.net (8.8.6/jr3.8) with ESMTP for ><techdiver@aquanaut.com> >> id VAA25770; Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:01:08 -0500 >>Received: from 206.246.204.142 by 206.246.204.137 >> with SMTP (QuickMail Pro Server for MacOS 1.0.2); 15 JAN 98 >21:00:55 UT >>Subject: DeepTech >>Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 21:01:07 -0500 >>x-sender: cobber@ma*.ci*.co* >>x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v2, June 6, 1997 >>From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*> >>To: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, "Cavers List" ><cavers@ge*.co*> >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >><In my ongoing effort to save my fellow divers money, here is yet >another >>review of a lame dive magazine> >> >>Much to my surprise when I got home today what was in my mailbox? A >copy >>of issue 10 of DeepTech. For some mysterious reason my subscription >seems >>to have started up again. I don't know wether to laugh or cry. But this >>is fortuitous because now I can save you guy's $9.95 (or however much >>your local dive shop is nailing you for). >> >>Let's see. In the letter section there are 4 letters from Brett >Gilliams >>Brown Nose Club telling him what a GOD he is for devoting an entire >issue >>to slandering George Irvine. One guy, Kevin J. Freeland, does not only >>kiss Gilliams butt, but he crawls up it and gives Bretts intestines a >new >>white-wash job. He has something to do with Gulf Coast Dive Pros, >>probably an establishment to avoid. >> >>Mike Kravit's letter shows up and Gilliam gives one of his classic cock >>and bull responces, and I quote: >> >>"It's not about advocating unsafe diving practices (which none of us >do); >>it's about how persons choose to conduct themselves in society" >> >>So let me get this straight, it does not matter that all these TDI >people >>died doing TDI sanctioned deep air dives, it's about the fact that they >>did not get on the internet and offend people? Well, now there's a >twist. >> >>"Personally, Idon't spend a minute of my day wasting my time on him, >I've >>simply got better things to do" >> >>Anyone who has spent any time on these list knows what a black-faced >lie >>this is. I believe the Gilliam does not spend a waking hour without >>plotting on how to fuck with G. >> >>Well, enough of that bullshit. Moving on we have an article by Guess >Who >>on, drumroll please, decompression sickness. For a minute there I >thought >>I was reading Dive Training, this article would fit in perfectly. Some >>nuggets from this intense, fact filled treatise: >> >>"Contributory Factors To DCS- Depth, Time, Rate of release (dive >profile)" >> >>Well, I'll be danged, I didn't know that! The rest of the article looks >>like a re-write of a PADI manual. I think this is called "filler"? >> >>Moving right along.. Exercise during decompression? Egghead >mumbo-jumbo, >>Doppler says yes, but can you doppler slow tissues? Don't think so. >hmmmm. >> >>Portable chambers- there's about 4 of them. >> >>Florida's Wreck Valley- Another informative fluff piece by HFS, go's >into >>what great buddies he and Tom Mount are, must have been written before >>the big falling out... Yup, says he was finishing up photos for Mixed >Gas >>Diving, pub. '93. Boy, blowing some dust off the old reject pile, >Brett? >> >>Ad's, ad's from the usual suspects. >> >>Next a 100 word art on side mounts by Brett's best friend, Lamar Hires. >>Take a transpak and clip some stage bottles on the side. There ya go! >> >>Now this is ironic, a blue hole expedition article. Spooky. >> >>Finally an interview with Lamar Hires, as I'm not a caver, I won't >>comment on this one, but it was pretty boaring. >> >>Very few ad's in this issue. Could it be that companies are a bit >nervous >>being associated with with magazines devoted to deep air and personal >>vendetas? Time will tell... >> >>There you go, I've just saved you guys another $10.00. >> >> Jim >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Learn About Trimix At http://www.cisatlantic.com/trimix/trimix.html >> >> >>-- >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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