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The solution is Rule #1. Not cutting bondage bungee while you are fried. 43 deg F water.... F that, Jeff Paltz, Art wrote: > I've got a question/suggestion. I don't dive with OMS wings but a > friend does. Since reading the list I've thought about "what/if" he had > a problem. Although I've never tested it, because he'd get pissed, I've > always thought if he had a lift problem I'd just cut the bungee thinking > it would allow more air to effortlessly enter the wings. If this works > then why didn't someone with loads of experience cut the cord? I'd > think this would be the easiest way to "solve" the bondage problem if > only in an emergency situation. Now if I were narc'd on nitrogen then > maybe I wouldn't think to cut the bungee. If this solution won't work > then sorry and please explain why. I've only seen these wings and never > used them. > > Thanks way in advance and hope it's helpful, > Safe diving, > Art. > art.paltz@r2*.co* > Last Dive 1/10/98, Klondike Rocks (lobster dive), > NJ 75ft/65 min bottom time, 43 degrees F, 40% bottom mix. > > -----Original Message----- > From: G. Irvine [SMTP:gmirvine@sa*.ne*] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 1998 9:25 AM > To: w wittman > Cc: techdiver; cavers@ww*.ge*.co* > Subject: Re: Added info re three missing in WPB > > Wings with bungees are ridiculous- they will exert pressure > against the > inflation, and cause the opv to dump well below what the ambient > pressure would. They are obviously going to present a massively > dangerous static lung load if you try to inflate them manually. > > If you tie them too tight to start with, which many of these > dopes do > because they think it is less "drag", they will not give much > lift. > There have been other acidents associated with this, so I > believe they > are now shipped out without the bungeess tied, so this is done > at the > dive shop, or by the end user. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........... > > The drag issue is realy FAS - the bungied surface causes > massive vortex > shedding and increases drag, not to mention the entangling > capabilities > of all of the bungee and other dangling stupidity associtated > with these > wet dream wings. If you have to add volume to get lift, it will > be the > same volume on any wing, so you want the wing whos shape most > closely > conforms to the gear, as does the Dive Rite wing which lays > tight to the > tank and wraps up around it, with smooth surfaces, already in > the slip > stream. > > There is also the problem of two inflators on some of these, a > real > boondoggle . You can immagine the degree of clustery that get > set up > with that arrangement. > > The fact is that if you dive the right gear to start with, none > of this > tekkie stupidity is necesasry. If you dive steel in the ocean, > use a > drysuit. If not, use aluminum tanks. Real simple, real > efficient. > > If you dive in the ocean, use aluminium deco bottles. Real > simple. We > found this out a long time ago, we execute these dives with no > problem, > and you can ask Capt Jim Mimms, he has watched this for years, > as have > his predecessors and succesors in the dive boat business. My > guys cause > no problems other than hammering the strokes on the boat. > > w wittman wrote: > > > > > > George, no doubt you have done before...but could you > elaborate on "bondage > > wings" and your objection to them? > > thanks > > > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to > `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to > `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Jeff Bentley jbentley@cr*.co* http://www.crl.com/~jbentley -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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