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I believe that deep air diving and cave diving should be kept as seperate entities. If you plan to dive deep in a cave then gas is the way to go because in a cave narcosis is just another added stress/imparement. however if one is talking deep wall dives to 200 feet then i don't think there is anything wrong with it as long as it is within your limits. being slightly narced at 200 is not that big of a deal(depending on diving environment) and is seems like a waste of gas and $$ to dive mix when not needed. again when mix is needed is a personal thing. Anything deep in an overhead environment i think should definately be done on mix no fu**ing around in that. Food for thought safe diving STEVE >Well, there is the obvious that we all problably recognize, Steve, but >the most insidious is the 120 to 170 zone where you really can't "feel" >much impairment, and that is where the unexplained accidents seem to >occur. In our diving, it is where the stupid stuff happens, so we do not >do it at all. > >Narcosis is like boiling a frog - if you put the frog in some water, >turn on the stove, and bring up the heat, he might sit there until >boiled. On the other hand, if you tried throwing him into a pot of >boiling water , he would jump out. You take a hit of air at 200+ after >being on gas, you will feel it a couple of minutes later very vividly. >If you go dwon to 200+ on air, you may not not. When you get into the >big numbers, you don't really care. > >Given my choice, I always dive mix, even at 100 feet, but in the >Project, we deco on nitrox 35% from 120 up, but we have gas on our >backs, and we have come up from the deep stops on another trimix. We do >not allow air diving anymore. I personally will not dive with anyone >diving air - I don't have to. > >There is nothing to be learned form impaired diving, and really deep air >diving is nothing more than drug abuse -just look at the players there. >The dive training organizations are full of dopes who think there is >some ability to do this, or some machoism associated with it. There are >some very, very, very stupid people in diving instruction. We are not >talking Harvard Business School graduates, we are talking work at the >Seven Eleven or teach diving assholes. > >Keep in mind also, Steve, that the many "deep air" courses require >little or no money to teach, but if you can require them, you can make a >nice profit. Hopefully, we get a few of these deaths to bite some ass, >and we get the insurance companies to quit insuring it. > > > >Steve Schinke wrote: >> >> Just curious but what to you consider deep air diving??? >> >> STEVE >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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