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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 19:31:17 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Joel Markwell <joeldm@mi*.co*>
CC: Cavers <cavers@ww*.GE*.CO*>, Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     HoustonCaveDivers
Subject: Re: Blue Holes Fatalities List
Parker made a bad move, and we all need to learn from it. He did not
have access to the kind of players who really know how to do this stuff,
and what is being taught and practiced out there is about as bad. I know
that Mount would violantly oppose this practice, but the rest of the
jerks are busy dreaming up even dumber things than this. We still have
some real morons recommmending putting air in back tanks and diving a
side bottle of mix, basicly the same thing that Parker did with singles.

I agree with you on the analysis , and I would like to go back and look
at cave diving accidents and look at the AED. There just can not be that
many dopes - it has to be that depth and confusion with a mild narcosis
did the trick ( the real deep ones like Parker are obvious).

The so-called "tough guys" of "tech" diving think I am some kind of
weenie, obviously, yet not one of them can do what I do. I can and have
done what they do better than they do it, and now do it right. What the
strokes are doing with air diving is nothing more or less than drug
abuse, and they are kidding themselves to call it anything else - they
like the buzz that narcosis gives them, just as I liked it and tried to
call it something else when I did it. 

I also like winning, and I couldn not win with air, but I have sure
kicked some serious ass with gas and with the gear rules.

Joel, let me know if you would like some collaboration on your effort
here - we might really get some eye openers .

Joel Markwell wrote:
> 
> You said:
> 
> >The "analysis" is simple - don't dive deep on air, dive redunend gear in
> >onverhead environments. Next case. You guys all want to be nice guys and
> >make up nosense, the guy is dead, and we can learn from it.
> 
> George,
> 
> Agreed. I think there has been a degradation of diving analysis standards
> in the cave community in recent years which has also lead to a laxity in
> diving protocols. The wide availability of instruction for anyone has
> been both a blessing and a curse. A blessing in that there is no longer
> any reason (at least in FL) for a diver to venture into a cave untrained.
> A curse in that any jerk that wants to be a "bad-assed" caver can get a
> ticket and get killed--not that this is what happened in Parker's case,
> of course. The standards and methodology for instruction have not kept
> pace with the fast expansion of technical diving in the last few years.
> Along with that popularity has come some pretty strange ideas about gear,
> scootering and deep diving on air.
> 
> Later,
> 
> JoeL
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