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Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 07:45:01 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
CC: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>,
     Cavers Mail List
Subject: Re: Electric Gloves & Sock
Greg, I am getting extremely tired of your crap. Only an idiot like you
would recomemend doing something in a way that has been expressly
forbidden by the Navy and commercial diving ( real commercial, not
bottom cleaning or clam digging) in electric suits ( and you do not knw
why or how). You pretend to be an engineer yet you are clueless and
dangerous , supporting your nonsense with a  tiny bit of information
shrouded in total misinformation and lies about the dives you did not
do, and excuses for the disasters you have been involved in. 

 Only an idiot like you would criticize somebody for building vehicles
to dive at 300 feet where the mechanical stress on the joints and the
DCS consequences of swimming would be prohibitive. Only an idiot like
you would criticize somebody like me for insisting on being in top shape
for extreme diving. Only an idiot and an irrespoonsible storke would
issue "diving challenges". I am still waiting for you to take my
challenge , which is make sense just once, and then to o come down here
and swim a simple little ocean race with me, run a simple road race,
race a bike, skates, or anything that would idicate that a pathetic
big-mouthed  slob like you has any businees even diving, or
"challenging" anyone to 400 foot ice dives. You are a huge liar, and a
horrible influence on what misinformed people might give a total stroke
like you the time of day.

 If you could even comprehend 11,000 foot cave dives at 300 feet wotih
15 hours in the ater at any temp, which was my last cave dive, you would
not continuously make a fool of yourself with stupid comments. The only
reason to continuously address the stupidity that you spread is that you
hold yourself out as a dive isntructor, and are therefor a danger to us
all, and a constant source of misinfomred stupents and dangerous
strokes.

 If your actually understood why advancing the brush board is the single
worst way to speed up an electric motor, and I am not ever going to tell
this list why, you would not be such an abject moron. You obviously did
not score too well in this kind of study. Perhaps you can tell us why I
wind mine the way I do, and why I have a scooter that pulls me with
rebreather, doubles, spare scooters and safeties for 9,000 feet and then
still has 75 minutes of burn time left on the (lead acid) batteries?

 Maybe you have no clue about anything, and maybe my information on
diving topics comes from sources that you do not even know about, and
just maybe the WKPP has a bank of talent in so many areas of expertise
that we do things in the most informed way possible. Just maybe we know
what we are talking about, in every area,  and it is obvious that you do
not. It amazes me that you are an "expert" on every useless topic and
the application of any and every known piece of bs and strokery in
diving. Only a polished stroke like you would even know that a "zepp"
uses a coathanger arrangement to advance the brushborad, and only a
moron like you would think that was a good idea. 

Maybe dangerous strokes like you need to stay away from new divers and
keep your mouths shut, not teach diving, and not be around other people
when they are diving. I am sick or countering every stupid thing you say
on here. You are a proven disaster . There is nobody anywhere who will
say any different, other than perhaps that stroke who left the divers in
the water at Whitefish Point. He may be your "paisan", but there can not
be too many more that stupid who are out walking around without a
straight jacket and drool cup. You are the single biggest idiot I have
seen in diving , bar none. We need strokes like you OUT of our sport.


Greg Zambeck wrote:
> 
> M
> no experience in water below 60 F / 16 C degrees which is typical of
> cavers.  But then he is a superior swimmer that is towed behind a scoter
> for his big dives, which give him an inflated ego.  (to much gas absorption
> )
> 
> The gloves and socks are wired in parallel assuming if you break a wire,
> your wire temperature will stay around 120 F / 49 C.  Although the
> temperatures sound high remember the conduction of the hand cools the wire.
>  Temperatures were measured in air with no conductive load on the wire.
> 
> As for electrical engineering George why does the AquaZep rotate the rotor
> brushes to change the speed of the propeller?
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