George ever engineer has to take an circuits analysis course.
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> From: G. Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
> To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>; Ingemar Lundgren
<ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
> Cc: Techdiver Mail list <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject: Re: Fw: private
> Date: Monday, December 22, 1997 8:06 PM
> 
> Igge, this guy is retarded. Check the input connection across the
> heart, and the voltage divider - this guy is farm animal stupid, and
> dangerously so. Now he is an electrical engineer, a week ago he was a
> combustion engineer, and what he is is a common moron. Give this guy a
> wide berth.
> 
> Greg Zambeck wrote:
> > 
> > ----------
> > > From: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
> > > To: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
> > > Subject: Re: private
> > > Date: Monday, December 22, 1997 10:17 AM
> > >
> > > Yes I did build the heating for the gloves and the socks.  The vest
and
> > > chaffs are motor cycle underwear are made by the Eclipse Mfg.i n Ann
> > Arbor
> > > Michigan.
> > > The socks are made using 5 ohms / ft or 1.52 ohms / meter nicrome
wire
> > that
> > > is wrapped around fiberglass and then coated with .032 inch silicon. 
The
> > > wire with 12 vdc gets to 135 degrees F /  58 degrees C which will not
> > burn
> > > the skin or cause pain.  You use 28 Inches / 85.3 cm of the wire on
each
> > > glove and sock.  The gloves and socks are wired in parallel.  The
> > > connection is made by using a seal three prong connector in the suit
> > across
> > > from the inflator.  Power is supplied by turning on a switch for 5
> > minutes.
> > >  If a voltage divider is used to reduce the heat output.  the diver
> > > dissipates the unused wattage in heat to the water, wasting energy. 
A
> > > double 12 vdc battery pack will add an extra hour to you deco time.
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > > From: Ingemar Lundgren <ingemar.lundgren@mb*.sw*.se*>
> > > > To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@US*.NE*>
> > > > Subject: Re: private
> > > > Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 4:48 PM
> > > >
> > > > I read an article about the fitz a year or so it was written by
Terence
> > > tysal if i am
> > > > not mistaken. They said that they used some kind of suit heating
> > system.
> > > Did you build
> > > > that?. If you know anything about the design i would bee very
grateful
> > if
> > > you can
> > > > share any info. I am thinking of building a heater myself. It is
very
> > > cold water here
> > > > in Sweden and we cant do very long deco without some kind of active
> > > heating system. If
> > > > you have any info to share i would bee more than grateful.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
> > > > Ingemar Lundgren
> > > >
> > > > Greg Zambeck wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > George I get all of my information from you and your articles.
> > > > >
> > > > > You need to start reading them.
> > > > >
> > > > > You contradict yourself every three weeks.  Your always on the
same
> > > cycle.
> > > > >
> > > > > You don't check out your information and nor does the rest of
your
> > > group.
> > > > >
> > > > > For example:
> > > > >
> > > > > Wayzee:  You didn't have names of the officer and the coroner.
> > > > >         The water is 39 not freezing.
> > > > >         The diver shut off his isolator valve, he didn't possibly
> > have
> > > a free
> > > > > flow.
> > > > >         The divers larynx caused the blockage bringing him up
burst
> > his
> > > lung.
> > > > >         That caused the massive embolism.
> > > > >
> > > > >         The diver was nervous about the dive.  He went through
111
> > c.f.
> > > in 11
> > > > > minutes.
> > > > >         The result would have been the same on Trimix.
> > > > >         You made this same mistake on the Dipolder accident.
> > > > >         Dustin corrected you on that one also.
> > > > >
> > > > >         You had your information to fast.  His brother response
to my
> > > asking about
> > > > > the dive        was:
> > > > >         " Only God knows for sure what happened".  How come you
can
> > get
> > > > > information and         a cop can't get it about his own brother.
> > Cops
> > > will
> > > > > always share information.
> > > > >
> > > > >         When you stated "He probably had a free flow",  I knew
you
> > and
> > > Mee were
> > > > > guessing.
> > > > >         In an accident analysis everything affects the outcome.
> > > > >         No detail can be over looked.
> > > > >         Police can not get the story right even if you right out
the
> > > information
> > > > > for them.
> > > > >         They will always copy it wrong and draw false
conclusions.
> > > > >         Most do not have the experience in the water to know what
to
> > > look for.
> > > > >
> > > > >         I at least take the time to ask questions from other
sources.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Africa was analyzed by Richard Pyle.  Your people jumped
the
> > > gun again.
> > > > >         Didn't get all the facts and kept changing the story.
> > > > >
> > > > >         The TDI / PADI accident is the latest example of that.
> > > > >         Your group jumps to fast to draw a conclusion.  The
stories
> > > always keep
> > > > > changing.
> > > > >         One minute it was two TDI instructors and then it's PADI.
> > > > >         Your people can only state the facts once.  After that
all
> > > credibility is
> > > > > lost.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Brandford dive center:
> > > > >         The door was locked and green oil leaking out from the
door.
> > > > >         I walked into bradford two days later.
> > > > >         Had my tanks filled for free and no one tried to get my
> > credit
> > > cards.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Your whole group works on planting a seed of doubt. 
Anyone
> > who
> > > starts
> > > > > checking        the information finds the mistakes.
> > > > >
> > > > >         You started guessing on you Trimix statements.  Your 80
is
> > > neutral around
> > > > > 2000 psi.
> > > > >         That's not the answer of a technician.  You didn't state
the
> > > lb. of each
> > > > > gas, your not   doing your homework.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Why you even thought to try your Fitz story was a
mistake.  I
> > > objected to
> > > > > the dive        because of what Zee was planning to do. He was
given
> > > copies of
> > > > > the laws and went       ahead and broke laws on both side of the
> > > border.  The
> > > > > information was all over the    magazines and papers.
> > > > >
> > > > >         I built all the systems and gear for the Ice dive.  How
do
> > you
> > > think I
> > > > > knew what to    build if,       If hadn't made the dive  before?
> > Solo
> > > dives have
> > > > > never phased me, my     system is set-up for this type of diving.
The
> > > other
> > > > > diver's didn't even have the mixing     gear, just their own
> > equipment.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Always let the information show the conclusion.
> > > > >         Your group is always set on a TDI / Deep air / Training
> > > accident mode.
> > > > >         If it's stated their using drugs, the gas mixture can't
be
> > used
> > > as the
> > > > > cause of the    accident.
> > > > >
> > > > >         They don't make an objective analysis of the information.
> > > > >         In R & D your always let the test results show you the
> > > direction to take.
> > > > >         In Quality work, your paid to check not to believe.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Look at Columbo, he believes no one is innocent or
guilty, he
> > > just keep
> > > > > checking all    aspects of every story.
> > > > >
> > > > >         Your group wants to have an accident so they can believe
in
> > > their cause.
> > > > > Other   accidents are never discussed, your group is to biased.
> > > > >
> > > > > ----------
> > > > > > From: G. Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
> > > > > > To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
> > > > > > Subject: private
> > > > > > Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 8:03 PM
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Zambeck - you tell me where you are getting the misinformation
> > from,
> > > > > > and I will never bother you again. Otherwise, you and I have a
> > > serious
> > > > > > problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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