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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:14:53 -0600
From: Drew Mooney <dmooney@cy*.ne*>
Organization: Motorola / SSSI -- CDMA A-Team
To: rducsh@er*.co*
CC: TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*, Connie LoRe <connie97@gt*.ne*>,
     cavers@ww*.ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: DPV Notice
Rick,

It's doubtful that I'd ever apply for either sticker or whatever they are. But
I did sort of promise myself that I wouldn't even own a scooter until I'd
booked at least 100 dives in various systems.

I think you're missing the point - it's not the sticker that's the prereq. It's
the assumption that a cave diver should have developed adequate buoyancy
control, familiarity with the systems, and judgement of his/her limitations in
the course of completing 100 dives. (And hopefully done some sort of scooter
acclimitization training in open water before venturing into a cave with
one....)

You've no doubt seen the gouges in the clay, the housing scrapings on the
overhead and cave floor often enough - you figure it's the real experienced
guys that give a shit about the resource that leave them? Or the putzes that
just picked up their cave cards and a Mako and want to go smoke some cave?

Drew




Rick Dusch wrote:

> Will somebody explain to me how having a abe davis or wakula
> award has to do with being able to scooter???  any moron can make a 100
> dives to the key hole and get there award , i've never seen one of these
> stickers but they ought to say STROKES ARE US.....RD
>
> Tom Mount wrote:
> >
> > About time, i'm glad this has finially taken place
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > Connie LoRe wrote:
> > >
> > > The following is posted for your information:
> > >
> > > Ginnie Springs Inc. will be instituting and enforcing new rules
> > > concerning the use of Diver Propulsion Vehicles (DPVs) within the cave
> > > system at Devil's Eye & Ear.
> > >
> > > EFFECTIVE January 1, 1998:
> > >
> > > Any diver that wishes to use a DPV in the cave must meet the following
> > > requirements:
> > >
> > > 1.  Full Cave Certification
> > >
> > > 2.  All cave divers certified PRIOR to January 1, 1997 must provide
> > > proof of 100 cave dives by showing one of the following:
> > >         a)  Abe Davis Award (actual award or sticker on card)
> > >         b)  Wakulla Award (actual award or sticker on card)
> > >         c)  Cave Diver Instructor card (intro-Cave or higher)
> > >
> > > 3.  All cave divers certified on or AFTER January 1, 1997 must be
> > > trained and have a DPV CERTIFICATION card.  This DPV certification must
> > > be from the NSS-CDS, NACD, or equivalent.
> > >
> > > 4.  DPV use is NOT ALLOWED in the following areas in Devis's Eye/Ear
> > > Cave:
> > >         a)  Double Lines
> > >         b)  Main Land
> > >         c)  beyond the Henkel Restriction
> > >         d)  River Intrusion Tunnel
> > >         e)  Sweet Surprise (aka 2250 Tunnel)
> > >
> > > If you have any questions regarding the above, contact Ginnie Springs
> > > direct at (904)454-2202.
> > > Safe diving, Connie
> > > http://www.cavediving.com/connie/         (813)862-2676 phone/fax
> > >        Yucatan Cave Trips            18237 Oshawa Dr., Hudson, FL 34667



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