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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:31:55 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Atle Aamodt <aaamodt@on*.no*>
CC: cavers <cavers@ge*.co*>, Jason Weisacosky <hypoxic@tr*.mi*.or*>,
     Jeremy Downs , techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Dry Suit Diving.
Neopreme buoyancy changes with depth, and the deeper you go, the less
thermal protection the suit itself provides. Use a shell suit and the
correct insulation, and your buoyancy and protection are the same at all
depths, while your motion is not restricted by the mess of a thick
insulation and a heavy neopreme suit, not to mention the increased
weight needed shallow and the increased inflation needed deep. These
suits are garbage, at best, and are like fishing lures - sold to fool
the fishermen , not the fish. Only a Zamgbeckian Moron would fall for
thinking a "thick" neopreme suit means anything but binding discomfrot
and blatent strokery . They should sell these with masks to waer over
your face so people can not idientify you. Does yours have the "kick me"
sign on the back?


Atle Aamodt wrote:
> 
> Can anyone give me a good reason not to use a thick neoprene drysuit, the
> best available underwear and Argon under the following conditions :
> 
> Fresh water
> Deep Dive - 100 meter - 20 min bottom time
> 4 degres celsius temp.
> 
> Would anyone do this in a "bodybag" ? In case what kind of "shell-suit"
> would be warm enough ?
> 
> Atle Aamodt
> Scandinavian Techdiver Website and Mailing-list
> http://tekniskdykking.org
> 
> ----------
> > From: Jeremy Downs <dcrco@jp*.ne*>
> > To: Jason Weisacosky <hypoxic@tr*.mi*.or*>
> > Cc: Paul Kaufman <pkaufman@sc*.cc*.ne*.us*>; techdiver@aquanaut.com
> > Subject: Re: Dry Suit Diving.
> > Date: 18. desember 1997 06:14
> >
> > Jason,
> > Thank you for the tempered response this time (I think) and the real
> > answers. First I want to say that I read through your entire post and
> I'll
> > admit your completely right (especially on the neoprene suit crap). But
> > there is a catch, it doesn't change what I was trying to say, in fact I
> > never refered to cave diving or heavy gear configurations, I believe I
> > clarified this up early on (go back and reread my posts). But my method
> does
> > work very well for single tanks and reasonable doubles while simplifying
> > gear useage and task loading. I don't see how this is stupid or dangerous
> in
> > any way in fact it is a real blessing to those who give it a try.
> Remember
> > there are many different applications in diving where you need to adjust
> > various techniques according to your circumstances.
> >
> > At 03:41 PM 12/17/97 -0600, Jason Weisacosky wrote:
> > >the other hand, seem to be hard headed enough to take your view down in
> flames.
> > >This is not, in part, a bad character trait, but combine it with a case
> of the
> > >peckerhead and you become a liability for all of us.
> >
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