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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:52:58 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
CC: Techdiver Mail list <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     Caver Maillist
Subject: Cake-taker was Re: private
Greg, you are the undisputed , dumbest SOB I have ever come into contact
with. You are so stupid, and so ignorant, that any discussion of
anything with you is out of the question. 

There are , however, many people on here who understand these topics,
and can read what you wrote and realize that you have no business EVER
teaching diving or being in a positon of responsibility, and your track
record bears this out.

Mine speaks for itself, and clearly you again are either so mongoloid
stupid that you actually believe what you say, or you are just a
run-of-the-mill moron and have taken complete nonsense from some other
savant, maybe a sort of Branford "Mr. Ed" ,and are passing it on.

The problem is , when dealing with intellects like yours, it is hard to
separate the stupidity from the retardartion or the psycopathology in
manifestation at the moment.

The simplicity of your stupidity is stunning, like the "Caver Maillist"
- that is a "cake-taker". There is stupid, farm animal stupid, annelid
stupid, and now "Zambeck Stupid" - when just any stupid won't do. 

Greg, do yourself a favor.


Greg Zambeck wrote:
> 
> George I get all of my information from you and your articles.
> 
> You need to start reading them.
> 
> You contradict yourself every three weeks.  Your always on the same cycle.
> 
> You don't check out your information and nor does the rest of your group.
> 
> For example:
> 
> Wayzee:  You didn't have names of the officer and the coroner.
>         The water is 39 not freezing.
>         The diver shut off his isolator valve, he didn't possibly have a free
> flow.
>         The divers larynx caused the blockage bringing him up burst his lung.
>         That caused the massive embolism.
> 
>         The diver was nervous about the dive.  He went through 111 c.f. in 11
> minutes.
>         The result would have been the same on Trimix.
>         You made this same mistake on the Dipolder accident.
>         Dustin corrected you on that one also.
> 
>         You had your information to fast.  His brother response to my asking
about
> the dive        was:
>         " Only God knows for sure what happened".  How come you can get
> information and         a cop can't get it about his own brother.  Cops will
> always share information.
> 
>         When you stated "He probably had a free flow",  I knew you and Mee
were
> guessing.
>         In an accident analysis everything affects the outcome.
>         No detail can be over looked.
>         Police can not get the story right even if you right out the
information
> for them.
>         They will always copy it wrong and draw false conclusions.
>         Most do not have the experience in the water to know what to look for.
> 
>         I at least take the time to ask questions from other sources.
> 
>         Africa was analyzed by Richard Pyle.  Your people jumped the gun
again.
>         Didn't get all the facts and kept changing the story.
> 
>         The TDI / PADI accident is the latest example of that.
>         Your group jumps to fast to draw a conclusion.  The stories always
keep
> changing.
>         One minute it was two TDI instructors and then it's PADI.
>         Your people can only state the facts once.  After that all
credibility is
> lost.
> 
>         Brandford dive center:
>         The door was locked and green oil leaking out from the door.
>         I walked into bradford two days later.
>         Had my tanks filled for free and no one tried to get my credit cards.
> 
>         Your whole group works on planting a seed of doubt.  Anyone who starts
> checking        the information finds the mistakes.
> 
>         You started guessing on you Trimix statements.  Your 80 is neutral
around
> 2000 psi.
>         That's not the answer of a technician.  You didn't state the lb. of
each
> gas, your not   doing your homework.
> 
>         Why you even thought to try your Fitz story was a mistake.  I
objected to
> the dive        because of what Zee was planning to do. He was given copies of
> the laws and went       ahead and broke laws on both side of the border.  The
> information was all over the    magazines and papers.
> 
>         I built all the systems and gear for the Ice dive.  How do you think I
> knew what to    build if,       If hadn't made the dive  before?  Solo dives
have
> never phased me, my     system is set-up for this type of diving. The other
> diver's didn't even have the mixing     gear, just their own equipment.
> 
>         Always let the information show the conclusion.
>         Your group is always set on a TDI / Deep air / Training accident mode.
>         If it's stated their using drugs, the gas mixture can't be used as the
> cause of the    accident.
> 
>         They don't make an objective analysis of the information.
>         In R & D your always let the test results show you the direction to
take.
>         In Quality work, your paid to check not to believe.
> 
>         Look at Columbo, he believes no one is innocent or guilty, he just
keep
> checking all    aspects of every story.
> 
>         Your group wants to have an accident so they can believe in their
cause.
> Other   accidents are never discussed, your group is to biased.
> 
> ----------
> > From: G. Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
> > To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
> > Subject: private
> > Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 8:03 PM
> >
> > Zambeck - you tell me where you are getting the misinformation from,
> > and I will never bother you again. Otherwise, you and I have a serious
> > problem.
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