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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:13:55 -0800 (PST)
To: jbentley@cr*.co*, jbentley@cr*.co*
From: Jeremy Downs <dcrco@jp*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Dry Suit Diving.
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Jeff,
Before you think to little of me go back and reread all my posts. I never
said to use this for all configurations just the simpler ones (that just
keeps getting assumed by everybody). I know it works well, I have been using
it for the last year now (on all types of dives) but then again with our
dives we don't need a lot of the extra crap on us. It would be nice if
everybody would quit assuming I don't inderstand the big picture, I do. 

At 08:51 PM 12/17/97 -0500, Jeff Bentley wrote:
>Jeremy,
>You are wrong chief... I'll save you the pain of spanking you in public...
>
>Double steel 104s are at least 12 lbs negative full and about neutral empty.
>An aluminum 80 is about 4 lbs negative full and lets say 2 positive empty..
>A proper dive light will add another 4 lbs negative.
>
>I assume you wear the correct amount of lead to counteract the drysuit when
>it is close to deflated.
>
>At the start of the dive you will be 20 (12+4+4) lbs negative.
>If your tanks are empty at the end of the dive you should be close to
neutral. You
>have to be near neutral or negative  in an out of gas emergency or you are
dead.
>
>So... you telling me you can swim around head down with  a min of 20lbs of
>positive boyancy in your drysuit..... BULLSHIT...
>
>Jeff
>
>Jeremy Downs wrote:
>
>> Jason,
>> I never have nor ever plan on carving some pumpkin underwater, I take my
>> diving very serious and even more so what I suggest to others. I have never
>> recremended anything that I have not carefully researched and proven myself
>> and I have a perfect record with my students.
>>
>> How can you judge me as never having done any real diving when you don't
>> even have a clue as to who I am or what I have done. Ignorent comments
>> usually come from ignorent minds, prove me wrong, answer my question with
>> facts and I will listen. Until then your just blowing smoke up everybodys
>> ass like the majority of the self absorbed wannabe diving eleteists that
>> infect our sport. Prove me wrong or shut up.
>> Jeremy
>>
>> >Jeremy Downs wrote:
>> >> Jason,
>> >> Instead of making crass assumptions why don't you list the dangers you
speak
>> >> of, I would be really interested to hear this one.
>> >>
>> >> BTW it's not for convenience but rather for better control and less CF's.
>> >> You do have to have a genuine clue about proper weighting to begin with
>> >> though (and most people really don't).
>>
>> At 05:00 PM 12/17/97 -0600, Jason Weisacosky wrote:
>> >Tell you what, Jeremy.  Isuppose you can do what you want, but instructing
>> others on a proceedure that is questionable really pisses me off.  This is
>> where people unknowingly become Strokes;  By listening to instructors that
>> really haven't done anything but blow happy bubbles and carve pumpkins
>> underwater.  I'm not saying you are a master pumpkin carver, but I strongly
>> disagree with your position.
>> >    -----Jason
>> >
>>
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>
>
>--
>Jeff Bentley     jbentley@cr*.co*    http://www.crl.com/~jbentley
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