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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:13:17 -0800 (PST)
To: Jason Weisacosky <hypoxic@tr*.mi*.or*>
From: Jeremy Downs <dcrco@jp*.ne*>
Subject: Re: Dry Suit Diving.
Cc: Paul Kaufman <pkaufman@sc*.cc*.ne*.us*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Well, I should have expected as much. You still have not provided any form
of a real answer to my question, just a lot of smoke & mirrors BS. Insulting
me without any basis is just a lousey way of dodging the true issue here,
you don't have a genuine arguement against my suggestion. I'm not even going
to try and respond to the points you listed, your just not worth any more of
my time.

You tried to sound smart by insulting my suggestions but now you just sound
like a cheap rip-off of George. I believe this is what you were hoping to do
in the first place but it is now backfiring, at least George picks his
fights properly and his arguements are backed with real facts, when he
insults somebody it is usually deserved, you just sound like a blowhard with
some sort of insecurity complex.

Once again for the last time, answer the question with facts or shut up!



At 12:04 PM 12/17/97 -0600, Jason Weisacosky wrote:
>Now for the response.
>
>Jeremy Downs wrote:
>
>> Jason,
>> I never have nor ever plan on carving some pumpkin underwater, I take my
>> diving very serious and even more so what I suggest to others.
>
>    Very admirable.  It's just that it seems an under-educated "I'm an
Instructor"
>attitude has successfully infiltrated the influence of another unsuspecting new
>diver, your student.  Guys like you need to be thrown out of the sport.
Why is it
>that once a person becomes an instructor, he/she suddenly has all the
answers to
>everything, even shit they know nothing about.  "Well, in the U.S Navy Dive
Manual
>it says................"    If you don't do it, or can't, take a course in
modesty
>and learn something.
>
>> I have never
>> recremended anything that I have not carefully researched and proven myself
>> and I have a perfect record with my students.
>>
>
>    Again, this is the real sad part.  An idiot like you is actually
instrokting.
>Do you stand in front of the mirror at night just to watch and listen to
yourself
>talk?
>
>> How can you judge me as never having done any real diving when you don't
>> even have a clue as to who I am or what I have done.
>
>    Tell you what,  I don't have to know you or even what you do to deduce
the fact
>that you are another self inflated hero.  Listen, Spank, I don't have to be
a race
>car driver to know how to drive a car; And you know what,  I don't tell the
race
>car drivers how to drive.   Now that I think about it,  your methodology is
>starting to influence me.  I think all race cars should have Air bags.  You
know,
>they get in a lot of wrecks and all.  Holy shit!
>
>> Ignorent comments
>> usually come from ignorent minds, prove me wrong, answer my question with
>> facts and I will listen. Until then your just blowing smoke up everybodys
>> ass like the majority of the self absorbed wannabe diving eleteists that
>> infect our sport. Prove me wrong or shut up.
>
>    Do I have to repeat everything Tom said?   Another thing, if you are
going to
>insinuate that I am ignorant, at least spell it right.   Also, "your" in
the above
>sense would be spelled 'you're', dumb fuck-----Jason
>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> >Jeremy Downs wrote:
>> >> Jason,
>> >> Instead of making crass assumptions why don't you list the dangers you
speak
>> >> of, I would be really interested to hear this one.
>> >>
>> >> BTW it's not for convenience but rather for better control and less CF's.
>> >> You do have to have a genuine clue about proper weighting to begin with
>> >> though (and most people really don't).
>>
>> At 05:00 PM 12/17/97 -0600, Jason Weisacosky wrote:
>> >Tell you what, Jeremy.  Isuppose you can do what you want, but instructing
>> others on a proceedure that is questionable really pisses me off.  This is
>> where people unknowingly become Strokes;  By listening to instructors that
>> really haven't done anything but blow happy bubbles and carve pumpkins
>> underwater.  I'm not saying you are a master pumpkin carver, but I strongly
>> disagree with your position.
>> >    -----Jason
>> >
>
>
>
>
>

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