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From: "Greg Zambeck" <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
To: <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Cc: "Techdiver Mail list" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>,
     "Caver Maillist"
Subject: Re: private
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:59:15 -0500
George I get all of my information from you and your articles.

You need to start reading them.

You contradict yourself every three weeks.  Your always on the same cycle.

You don't check out your information and nor does the rest of your group.

For example:

Wayzee:  You didn't have names of the officer and the coroner.
	The water is 39 not freezing.
	The diver shut off his isolator valve, he didn't possibly have a free
flow.
	The divers larynx caused the blockage bringing him up burst his lung.
	That caused the massive embolism.

	The diver was nervous about the dive.  He went through 111 c.f. in 11
minutes.
	The result would have been the same on Trimix.
	You made this same mistake on the Dipolder accident.
	Dustin corrected you on that one also.

	You had your information to fast.  His brother response to my asking about
the dive 	was: 
	" Only God knows for sure what happened".  How come you can get
information and 	a cop can't get it about his own brother.  Cops will
always share information.

	When you stated "He probably had a free flow",  I knew you and Mee were
guessing.
	In an accident analysis everything affects the outcome.
	No detail can be over looked.
	Police can not get the story right even if you right out the information
for them.
	They will always copy it wrong and draw false conclusions.
	Most do not have the experience in the water to know what to look for.

	I at least take the time to ask questions from other sources.
	
	Africa was analyzed by Richard Pyle.  Your people jumped the gun again.
	Didn't get all the facts and kept changing the story.

	The TDI / PADI accident is the latest example of that.
	Your group jumps to fast to draw a conclusion.  The stories always keep
changing.
	One minute it was two TDI instructors and then it's PADI.
	Your people can only state the facts once.  After that all credibility is
lost.

	Brandford dive center:
	The door was locked and green oil leaking out from the door.
	I walked into bradford two days later.
	Had my tanks filled for free and no one tried to get my credit cards.

	Your whole group works on planting a seed of doubt.  Anyone who starts
checking 	the information finds the mistakes.

	You started guessing on you Trimix statements.  Your 80 is neutral around
2000 psi.
	That's not the answer of a technician.  You didn't state the lb. of each
gas, your not 	doing your homework.


	Why you even thought to try your Fitz story was a mistake.  I objected to
the dive 	because of what Zee was planning to do. He was given copies of
the laws and went 	ahead and broke laws on both side of the border.  The
information was all over the 	magazines and papers.

	I built all the systems and gear for the Ice dive.  How do you think I
knew what to 	build if, 	If hadn't made the dive  before?  Solo dives have
never phased me, my 	system is set-up for this type of diving. The other
diver's didn't even have the mixing 	gear, just their own equipment.

	Always let the information show the conclusion.
	Your group is always set on a TDI / Deep air / Training accident mode.
	If it's stated their using drugs, the gas mixture can't be used as the
cause of the 	accident.

	They don't make an objective analysis of the information.
	In R & D your always let the test results show you the direction to take.
	In Quality work, your paid to check not to believe.

	Look at Columbo, he believes no one is innocent or guilty, he just keep
checking all 	aspects of every story.   

	Your group wants to have an accident so they can believe in their cause. 
Other 	accidents are never discussed, your group is to biased.

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> From: G. Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
> To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
> Subject: private
> Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 8:03 PM
> 
> Zambeck - you tell me where you are getting the misinformation from,
> and I will never bother you again. Otherwise, you and I have a serious
> problem.
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