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On Tuesday, December 09, 1997 12:55, Roberto Bagnasco [SMTP:divetek@we*.ch*] wrote: > "PADI standards does not promote deep air diving..." > I heard that many times Probably because it is a fact...... > PADI and most of the recreational agency do not > inform divers of what they are actually doing, PADI says something like "We > do no decompression dives, etc" and do not give the students any > information of what they should do, if they want to go deeper, or stay > there longer. But they give information on what will happen if you do go deeper and stay down longer, diving on air, and explain why it is a real bad idea. Those who want to do that have then been warned, and can go find out for themselves what they should do. > I believe that this is the only way you can keep a OW course simple and > easy, and cheap enough, so that they can certify Joe Diver in a few days. Simple and easy because that works for the type of diving you are certified to do after an OW course. Come to think of it, "simple and easy" is not a bad phrase for a _technical_ diver to live by, either...hm ? > Hiding the information is a criminal act, and if you make money teaching > PADI OW courses, you are responsible for it. Wrong again, Roberto. The criminals are the ones who present deep air diving as something that can be done safely and harmlessly. The 2 DM's (which in this case stands for Dumb Motherf.....s) who died in the Middle East knew damned well what the dangers were, or they wouldn't have passed their physics and physiology exams. They made a choice and paid the price. Nothing to do with the agency that told them that deep air diving was a real bad idea. Would you blame a driving instructor for an accident that occurred because you were doing 120 mph instead of the 55 you were taught ? > Go down at 130 feet, and try to simulate an out of air situation with the > average recreational diver (or even an instructor for that matter), and see > what happens... What happens, Roberto ? Nothing, if you do as you are told and dive with a buddy. Isn't that what it always comes down to: people like you whining that "the average" diver is not capable of doing this or that, making up far-fetched scenarios that can only occur if all sorts of guidelines and rules were violated simultaneously. If you can see yourself alone at 40 meters, running out of air and being without a redundant air source, then you are a fine one to blast the 2 DMs who died. > PS: You know what to do with your PADI standards, do yoy? Yeah, train people by them, and dive by them. Or do you have a paper fetish ? > "Am I I going to loose my card? Or is some fat arrogant Course Director > going to PADIfy me again?" Wow, that was macho. Bjorn PADI 94534 (and that's a real number) -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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