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Bill

I did a trimix course with Kevin Gurr earlier on this year. Diving with the
isolator shut to "save gas" certainly was not part of the course. However,
on the way back from a dive he did mention that on a short dive, diving
with, say, twin 15L cylinders he would have the isolator shut. He would then
only have to dump and refill 15L instead of 30L. Is this really so bad? If
he had a problem It takes a second to reach behind and open the isolator.

While Im on the subject, George I. wrote

"Whether they were friends of Palmer or
not, who knows, and now we konw how much influence kevin Gurr and the
Slob have in the UK - same as everywhere- ZERO. This is not about
Palmer, it is about deep air."

You're most probably right about the Slo - er - Gilliam. But I think Gurr
has a good reputation this side of the pond. He is against deep air diving
and it wasn't a prerequisite for the IANTD - UK Trimix course. The deepest
I've been on air is 56m (1.4 ppo2) and I have absolutely no intention of
going any deeper without helium.

Kevin Pickering

 -----Original Message-----
From: Bill Royal <BillRoyal@ao*.co*>
To: cavers@ge*.co* <cavers@ge*.co*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: 06 December 1997 14:52
Subject: Speaking of Idiots


>
>             Since we are on the subject of the World's Biggest Idiots,
what
>is this we hear about the mindless Kevin "Vesco" Gurr teaching his mix
course
>with the isolator manifold closed to "save gas"? How stupid is this guy,
and
>where did he get this from? Looks like the insurance company needs a call
on
>this guy befiore he ruins it for the rest of us. It seems that everybody
but
>Tom Mount , and the occasional walk in sucker, has figured this guy out
now.
>
>

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