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These deep air practitioners really think that they accomplish something to. I can tell you they don't accomplish shit. Anyone can do these 100m air dives. Look at Brett and you will see why, he is in terrible physical condition and still he talks about his superior physiology, 3 heart beats a minute one breath a minute and duck breathing and all that bullshit. The only thing you need is no brain and roll a six on the dice. And if they think they are brave that's not the case either. I have done my share of stupid deep air diving in the past and i was so impaired that i was unable to feel fear it just felt better and better the deeper i went. The tuff guys dive Trimix, then you know what you are up against. Even at relatively shallow depth like 60m air is not acceptable i think. Some time ago i thought that it was pretty ok diving air to these depths. I hardly felt any narcosis, or so i thought. But when you get in to a stressful situation you cant handle it, then all the narcosis becomes so apparent and your distance from being just stressed to panic shortens dramatically. The slightest bit of co2 build up on a deep air dives can have severe consequences. All this adds up to a cluster fuck in a stress situation. The issue that people dive air because helium is hard to get hold of or to expensive in Europe is bullshit. In all the countries i have visited helium is cheap enough and easy to get hold of to bee a very good alternative to air and if you cant afford the small amount of extra money you should stay at 50m. George's position in the deep air debate has helped a lot of people to understand the dangers of doing this stupidity and realize that people like Brett Gilliam promote a dangerous activity as being safe. Gilliam clearly has a bad influence on the diving community as many divers look up to him and thinks he is some kind of tech guru but he is the worst roll model you can have. I have talked to friends of Rob Palmer and they hold Brett gilliam responsible for his death due to peer pressure. Rob had stooped deep air diving until he got aquatinted with Brett then he suddenly started deep air diving again. Brett Gilliam should not be involved in the diving industry. How many more people will he indirectly kill???. John Thornton wrote: > Totally agree with you Ingemar, I know one of the guys who recovered the > bodies, he tells a harrowing story of the bodies found in each others > arms at 102m, they could see them from 60m on the bottom etc etc. When > are people going to listen and start being responsible, I had a guy on > the phone to me for a course in trimix and his justification for trimix > was that he had done 100m on air, he is over 50 years old.I suggested > that he stops and takes up something else. > Come on you deep air types wise up,mind you you are getting less in > numbers. > I didnt notice any of Georges objectors questioning him on his air ideas > at the do`s conference in Harrogate, it was the only reason I went. > > John > > >Two divers, apparently Instructors died 2 weeks ago in Dahab, Sinai. > >They were found at between 80 and 100m of depth. > >The current trend in diving here in Europe seems to be deep Air and much > >of it, i think is thanks to Brett Gilliam and his so called training > >agency. Publishing books like deep diving, where if you read it, you get > >the impression that Trimix is unnecessary trouble and that deep air, if > >you are mentally prepared and trained and all that bullshit could be > >done safely, is very dangerous. And he goes on in magazine articles with > >public statements like, only a few in the world can handle air at 90m is > >so stupid that i cant believe my eyes. We have a diving group here in > >Sweden called "dirty deep divers" that dives to 80m on air and sticks a > >name tag in the bottom, i mean what is this stupidity coming from. > >Someone must have a very bad influence on our sport and i think Gilliam > >has a large part of the blame. You may say that everyone has the right > >to shoot him self in the head, but promoting this dangerous activity as > >being safe is extremely irresponsible. > > > >-- > >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > > Web site http://www.johnpt.demon.co.uk > John Thornton Owner/Skipper M.V.KARIN > Polrudden House scapa Flow Technical & Charters > Peerie Sea Loan Air & Nitrox Charters & Tuition To Trimix > Kirkwall > Orkney UK Tel/fax 01856 874761 > KW15 1UH -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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