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First off, I sold Lake Superior Dive Tours Inc. almost a year ago.  Second,
The numbers Greg has for the Aurania are in 150' to 200' feet. (I could find
the Panther using his numbers for the wreck). Thirdly, Using his numbers
would locate yourself 11miles from the nearest U.S. land access and 12 miles
from the nearest Canadian land access.  If the Bay freezes (and I do mean
if it freezes period) like it did last year (pack Ice) it would take you
four hours to get to
the site one way by Skidoo.  We only have 8 hours of day light that time of
year.  Forthly, if you think you walz out on W. Fish Bay in Feb. cut a hole
and dive, your crazy.  I don't care about the water temp. it's the surface
weather is of more concern.  For those of you down south it's WINTER up here
and as such - 30 deg. C to -40 deg. C would not be uncommon with no wind
chill factor.   As a forestry technician I work in these cold conditions
every winter and know better than to dive under these conditions.  And
finally Greg I have no idea were you think I was qualified to do a 400'+
dive.  I've been surface support for lots of technical dives ( one 500'+),
but I'm comfortable diving to 140' on air. (I am going to get
trimix soon as $ and time permit).

If by now I have not convinced you that this is a bad plan from the start
and it makes you want to dive it even more. I will arrange the surface
support for anyone wanting to attempt a dive on bogus numbers for a fee.  On
the other hand  I will be diving the
Sagamore(70') in W.Fish Bay about the same time.  This site is 2 miles from
a sauna.  Or you may like another ice dive on the Farwell (45') that is
located 100 yards from a sauna.  On the Sagamore and the Farwell the fee is
the labor in helping to cut the hole 0-).


BTW diving is NOT a game or a competitive sport.  I dive to get away from
people like Greg who, by way of me writing this email, has wasted 15 minutes
of my time.

Randy Sullivan
Sault Ste. Marie, Ont
sulteck@so*.ca*
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
To: Cavers Mail List <cavers@ge*.co*>
Cc: Tech Diver Mail <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Saturday, November 29, 1997 1:45 PM
Subject: Ice diving - challenge


>Well Randy Sullivan (Lake Superior Dive Charters) and I have come up with a
>new game.
>
>The challenge is an ice dive on the Aurania, 420 to the bottom, 20 ft of
>relief.
>
>½ mile off the island in White Fish bay.
>
>The dive should only take about 3 to 4 hours.
>
>Randy doesn't seem to be up to the dive and said I should look for a few
>good dives on the Internet.
>
>I know that Ken Clayton is interested in this kind of thing.
>
>The date for the dive is February 11, 1998.
>
>Propose your dive plan with your response.
>
>Bring some wine to chill Clayton, the water is 34 top to bottom.
>
>We can have a party afterward.
>
>Greg Z.
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