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Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:26:21 -0500
From: David Bennett <dbenn@er*.co*>
To: gmirvine@sa*.ne*
CC: cavers <cavers@ge*.co*>, techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: The Real "Issues"
Why?
That's a good question. It seems to me that the only individual attacking
anybody is you. I have yet to see Mitch Scaggs or Bret Gilliam call you a
slob. I wonder does a single day go by when you don't trash TDI or some
other agency.

You know you can get good medical help for this condition of yours.
Your beginning to sound like a broken record! By the way  how do you know so

much about farm animals?

G. Irvine wrote:

> Why does TDI go out of its way to attack the WKPP, why do
> Rennaker, "Bird", Dooley and other CDS instructors make up lies about us
> and send out complaints, and why do the usdct types agitate constantly
> about us?
>
>       The answer is very simple: the information we develop makes them
> look bad. Their gear styles they teach expose them as ignoramuses who
> know nothing about diving or dive gear. Their philosopies on diving ,
> phsyiology, and equipment are proven flawed.
>
>        With TDI, it is real simple - they are justifiably afraid of
> loing their insurance over deep air. We are the biggest opponents of
> deep air diving, and our information, were it known by the insurance
> companies, would put an end to the practice of teaching this. I intend
> to get that information to the insurance companies. Bret Gilliaim's
> tactic is to lie about me to prevent them beliving me, but they will
> belive statistics.
>
>        The FAS instructors, like Rennaker and co, are scared that anyone
> who knows the score would never take a class from them, and they are
> exactly right. Why go to bozons with farm animal iq's, no real diving
> experience, proven lack of information and knowledge, and who are known
> to be praciticng morons? Why deal with drooling goobers when you can go
> to the pros?
>
>        Why would somebody go to bird ostriech and take trimix from a
> stroke who is not involved with any trimix diving, and who is known to
> actually breath air while his studients are on mix, a real genius, and
> then brag about it?
>
>        On the usdct and its gang of cry baby rejects, why would anyone
> let them get in our way when we do such a good job, unless they can
> discredit us using Annete's position at CDS and a bunch of soldiers of
> goobery to do the dirty work, all the while denying it?
>
>         The issue is clear - we are making bad practices look bad, and
> they want to protect those pratices, rather than learn and progress. Not
> all of them by any means, only a tiny handfull, but that tiny handfull
> is where all of the trouble , the lies, the bs, and the misinformation
> is generated from - about 8 people in total of the whole diving
> community. That is one or two at usdct, one or two cave instructors, and
> one or two deep air clowns. The lies they spread temporarily bring
> others out against us until the truth is exposed, as we all saw happen
> with this guy Scott McCable after he had a dose of Rennaker, or the body
> recovery throat sliting cop from Tampa who thought I would not fish dead
> kids out of a blue hole.
>
>          It is clear where the problems are in our sport, and it is
> clear  that we need to remove these influnces, not to keep me from
> having fun hitting them over the head, but to keep them from killing
> people with their dangerous stupidity.
>
>           I do not belive in covering up dangerous practices to protect
> the "community". I will continue to do what its right, because all of
> the worlds records for cave diving mean nothing, but all of the lives
> saved mean a lot. I do not want to read another preventable horror
> story, and I will continue to be the worst nightmare that the strokes
> have ever had.
>
>           To quote Rob palmer, " In sober reality there was little
> point.."  To quote me, "put the peer pressure where it belongs" You are
> the peers. You put the pressure on. Next time you hear misinformation
> from the strokes, set them straight.
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