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Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 06:46:42 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Alden Greenhouse <greenhar@mu*.ci*.mc*.ca*>
CC: nhbarger@er*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com,
     Ben Greenhouse
Subject: Re: Physiology
Alden, if you are not a deep air mail order dive instructor who has
killed at least one student, shut up, and leave the discussion to the
mooing farm animals from central florida and the great lakes who have
iq's that look like the temperature in Toronto this morning. When these
blithering idiots figure this out, and the MRI scans show the lesions
that make a previosly healthy individual look like a multiple sclerosis
patient from deep air diving, the farm animals will have no insurance
left and will be forced to go back to working in the Seven Eleven or
milking their own cows where they belong, instead of teaching "tech"
diving . 

 There is a lot of serious legal implications when the truth about all
of this is known, and it all applies to the dive instructional
community, not the manufacturers, yet the manufctures always are the
ones who get sued. It is time they insist on real dive instruction
indtead of the mindless crap that is being propagated. It is time they
cast out the mail order deep air specialists and then clean up the
others.

Alden Greenhouse wrote:
> 
> nelson wrote:
> >
> > Ben Greenhouse wrote:
> > >
> > > Nelson;
> > >
> > >     "One" never claimed to be an expert, my rationale behind that
> > > thought was that the blood would become more viscous due to the
> > > increased rigidity of the RBCs.  This in turn would cause an elevation
> > > in blood pressure.  Sound fair to you?
> > >
> > > Ben
> 
> > NOPE.......What is your knowledge base to make such an assumption.
> 
> Nelson:
> 
>         What is your problem?  The purpose of this list is to generate
> discussion.  Ben, who happens to be my twin brother, may not be a
> Vascular surgeon, but if he wants to speculate about the effects of
> increased rigidity of RBC then why not let him.
> 
>         If you have to have qualifications trotted out before you before
> you'll
> consider anything you're quite closed-minded.
> 
>         You asked for Ben's 'Scientific Rationale' and he gave it to
> you.
> 
>         If you want qualifications, Ben is a 3rd year pre-med student at
> University of Toronto.  Albeit he may not be a surgeon, but hey, I'm a
> third year Finance student, and even I can understand the rationale
> behind his argument.  If you have something to contribute to this
> discussion then go ahead and contribute, but there seems to be a huge
> chip on your shoulder as you try to block any discussion he attempts to
> start.  If you disagree with his assumptions then make some of your own,
> or present some arguments, but always asking for qualifications will
> eventually terminate any useful discussion.  If you can't consider
> anything unless it comes from an 'expert', then you scare me.
> 
>                                 Alden Greenhouse
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