Are you getting trimix and nitrox mixed up? 130 feet would be pushing it for something like EAN32 (1.6 pp at 130). However, narcosis wouldn't be that much of a problem due to the lowered nitrogen content. The lowered pp of nitrogen would make the dive equivalent to ~110fsw (as far as narcosis is concerned). Trimix is generally never used shallower than 100-120 ft. Depending on the mix you could die of asphyxia at shallow depths with trimix due to the reduced oxygen. -- Jason At 09:20 PM 10/15/97 EDT, Hans Petter Roverud wrote: >Somebody stated: Technical trimix is a deep air >course. I believe he's right -- this course is >definitely bordering on the "deep air" that most >most of us agree to avoid. > >My deepest "technical nitrox" dive was a nitrox >23 dive to 160'. Of course, 23% oxygen is >a ridiculous mix since it's not worth the effort, >but the point was to practice making EAD calculations. The >purposes of "technical nitrox" are to learn gas >management, practice swimming with a heavy rig >and practice gas switches. > >My question to the board is, what do you think >would be the preferred depth limit? We definitely >do not need "level stoned" yet we do want a >realistic task loading, deco obligation included. >I would suggest 130' as a good target depth for >"technical nitrox" -- it's enough to provide a >realistic training scenario for future trimix divers, yet >narcosis is not a problem. > >However, as a physiologist I know that narcosis >can be measured at depths shallower than 100'. If >we demand no narcosis whatsoever, we really have >to pull back. What is a reasonable EAD for a >trimix dive? Ask some and the answer is 200' -- >ask others and they go 100'. Ask me and you get >100' - 130'. I believe the "technical nitrox", >"extended range air" or whatever you call it >should have a target depth matching the EAD you >will prefer as a trimix diver. Learning the >toting, configuring, switching and balancing >the rig does not depend on going deep. Actually, >some of the best training may be to swim >sidemounts for an hour at 20'. > >I think most of the current philosophies are >based on giving students a taste of narcosis >and prove the need for trimix. I believe most >of today's trimix divers have thorough >knowledge of nitrogen narcosis from past >experience. > >Discussing this with some friends, >the opinion was voiced that past deep air experience >might be an advantage. I half-heartedly >disagree. Sure, it may be sort of an advantage >to have been there and know what to avoid, but I >don't think new trimix divers need to go >through the same phase of trial and error. In >retrospect, an advantage but no prerequisite, and >definitely not the direct way to learn trimix. >We need to build a record and gain experience >underwater doing what we're supposed to do. If >trimix is the tool of the trade, it makes a lot >more sense to log more trimix dives than it >does to practice deep (or even deepish) air >dives. > >My conclusion: 130' is a good target depth for >practicing and preparing for trimix. What do >you say? > > > > > >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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