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Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 15:43:30 -0400
From: "George M. Irvine III" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Glue-Sniffing , Farm-Amimal Stupid Deep Air Half_Wits
Kev, I answered this privately to you - I did not know it was a list
message. We use trimix for the deep deco. The deco models already
account for the different gases - there is no need to add "safety"
factors, they are merely adding to the stops and ballooning the shallow
stops, which makes no sense - the shallow stops quickly max out and go
level for longer bottom times. The trick is getting no damage, either by
the action of the gas you are breathing, by bubbles, or by mechanical
damgage due to movement at depth ( we scooter deep), and then shaping
the deco curve properly. I did 210 minutes at 300 with 11.5 deco, and
did not get above 200 feet until 300 minutes run time. Most people would
have called that a 310 minute bottom time - 10 to get dwon , 210 at max
deoth, and 90 more between 300 and 200. I called it deco from 270 on up.

Kevin Connell wrote:
> 
> At 10:29 AM 10/3/97 -0400, you wrote:
> >   The fact is that at WKPP we long ago discovered the inefficiency and
> >danger of deep air, high ppo2's, and the combination ( deep nitrox) as
> >we came off of mix onto deco gases or as we tried to conduct
> >sophisticated dive objectives . We no longer use high PPN2's. We also
> >discovered that the decompression off of high PPN2's was all but
> >impossible without symptoms, and we attribute this to damage caused by
> >them. We use helium-based mixes now instead.
> 
> G - I know your deco is proprietary, but are you saying that the damage
> PPN2's cause (rigid cell damage) contribute to DCS and therefore diving a
> He mix allows a similar profile (more intermediate/deep stops maybe?)
> without the damage of the high PPN2's and dcs - I've also heard you scorn
> "helium padding" etc
> 
> And on this subject - I'm no deco PhD, but if helium absorbs faster into
> the tissues, doesn't it diffuse faster too?
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
> 
> Northwest Labor Systems
> http://www.nwls.com
> Bellingham, WA
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