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Ken , when you are dealing with farm animal stupid goobers like Lavalle,who is too stupid to understand these facts, or sumbags like Gilliam who have never done a cave dive in their life, you are effectively annoying the pig. What we need now is the list of open water deep air or wreck deep air, including such horror stories as the Rouse father and son death . The fact that idiots are out there promoting deep air in light of the evidence is inexcuseable. Only a stroke like Gilliam , or a hopeless idiot like Lavalle would suggest that deep air is ok. Ken Sallot wrote: > > Doing my job as the NACD accident analysis person, let me provide a > statistical analysis of deep air cave fatalities from 1962 until > 1991. > > Heywood Day, 140', 1962 > Ron Hughes, 150', 1963 > Paul Giancontere, 200', 1965 > Brend Joost, 160', 1968 > Stephen Alexander, 210', 1969 > Pat McIntree, 150', 1969 > Brett Naisbet, 150', 1969 > Wayne Dillon, 210', 1969 > Francis Wilson, 160', 1969 > Paul Bartlett, 140', 1970 > Robert Causey, 180', 1970 > Bud Sims, 300', 1970 > Fred Schmidt, 150', 1970 > John Cruselle, 180', 1971 > Frank Martz, 300', 1971 > Robert Vaughn, 200', 1971 > Doug Deurloo, 150', 1971 > Ray Elman, 260', 1972 > Alex Nesbitt, 200', 1972 > Thomas Cranmer, 200', 1972 > Paul Dietrich, 240', 1972 > Dan Cole, 220', 1972 > Rich Broman, 140', 1972 > Stephen Millott, 250', 1973 > Christine Millott, 250', 1973 > John Bockerman, 250', 1973 > Gordon Roberts, 250', 1973 > William Smith, 200', 1973 > Melvan Tillman, 150', 1973 > James Waddington, 140', 1973 > Robert Wyatt, 210', 1973 > Deane Valentine, 190', 1973 > George Van de Nord, 190', 1973 > Paul Reinholm, 170', 1974 > Unidentified, 200', 1974 > Dana Turner, 290', 1974 > Charles Barone, 180', 1975 > Daniel Howard, 180', 1975 > Steve Herman, 180', 1975 > Mike Goddard, 170', 1976 > Arthur Williamson, 140', 1976 > Sven Sorenson, 140', 1976 > William Wood, 180', 1978 > Carl Miles, 180', 1978 > Terry Collins, 260', 1981 > James Bentz, 260', 1981 > Bill McFadden, 200', 1988 > William Cronin, 140', 1988 > Kenny Potts, 200', 1990 > Lloyd Morrison, 250', 1990 > Billy Liiard, 180', 1991 > > This is not the complete list either. > > Analysis: > > Number of deep air fatalities counted: 51 > Number at 200' or shallower: 35, 68% of the fatalities listed > Number deeper then 200': 16, 32% of the fatalities listed > > You be the judge. > > Ken Sallot > > > Reply-to: <lavalle7@gt*.ne*> > > From: "Frank Lavallee" <lavalle7@gt*.ne*> > > To: <cavers@ge*.co*> > > Subject: Deep Air Diving > > Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:32:35 -0700 > > > I don't see a problem with those divers who make air dives in the 130' - > > 200' range and are trained and experienced in doing so. What I see is a > > problem with those divers who push the physiological limits of the human > > body by making air dives to 250', 300', and beyond. The narcosis and high > > PO2's are bound to get you, sooner or later, and then it's "bye-bye" and > > "so long". > > > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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