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CHKBOONE@ao*.co* wrote: > > In a message dated 97-09-11 03:10:59 EDT, you write: > > >> In other words, once opened enough to the ambient environment the > dynamics > >>of the closed system that permitted the initial and sustaining rate of > >>combustion collaps quickly. > > >This is facinating. > > >For what it's worth, I went back to the source I was asking for > >information on O2 handling, (a welding shop), and grilled them on O2 > >explosions, how they were prevented, and how catastropic they are if they > >occur. > > >Turns out that they use metal to metal connections exclusively, to avoid > >exactly what we are talking about here. > > >They were also unainimous in their opinion that an O2 fire, once started, > >would escalate to a catastrophie instantly, with no prevention possible. > > >I can't help but note that they were also unainimous in their > >inexperiance, that is, none of them had ever witnessed such an event. > > >Your theory, if so, seems to indicate that the event you described is an > >absolute worst case. That is, any opening to the envirement would cause > >such a collapse, and extinquish the fire. > > >Do you agree? > > ================================== > What I described as possibly happening in this case was close to a minimum > case. A worst case would be if the inside of the tank caught fire and then > ruptured. Once the inside starts burning it will probably continue as long > as there is confined oxygen and fuel whether the valve opens up or not. > It's not really "my" theory except for bits and pieces here and there where I > speculate, it's the scientific community's theory and observations. > > > >To continue, I don't understand why you aren't willing to follow up on > >your claim, but I suppose I'm willing to investigate further, as I'm > >interested in O2 cleaning issues. > > ================================================ > I have not followed up because "I" already know what can happen. I simply > put this out in the first place to help others see that it does happen in the > real world - not just in labs. Also, as I said before, the details of this > case really don't matter much except to those interested in the science > behind it, as you seem to be. If you can get hold of some of the safety > films used by industry you will find them very interesting and eye opening. > > >From your first post: > > >>Last week at Underseas Divers on Big Pine Key > > >OK, the shop name is Underseas Divers, but I have no idea where Big Pine > >Key is. > > >What state? What city-town? > > >Do you want me to look these up myself, or could you provide a phone > >number-area code? > >Do you have the name of the person who was injured? What date did it > >occur on? > > ====================================== > I will send you this info by e-mail but I talked to them today and I can tell > you that you wont get much out of them. They typically blame the diver's > tank and pretend not to know much about the details that we are interested > in, as if no one was interested enough to inspect the damage closely. I > don't blame them at all for not saying much but it disgusts me that they > blame the diver. I believe that it is as my source said - the adaptor was > dirty. > I really wish the shop would get on here and tell us exactly what happened > just for everyone's education but as is always the case these businesses will > protect themselves at all cost even to the point of blaming their clientele > and withholding information that could save lives. No wonder no one > believes O2 cleaning is necessary. > > I hope you can find out more than I have. Perhaps there is an official > report of some kind from OSHA or the county. Let us know what you find out. > > > Chuck > > >--------- > >"Huh?" > > --Jammer, 1992 > > > -- > Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. > Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. Man how much fuel can you have present? Of course where would you get air like that and finally wouldn't you smell or taste that poor of a fill. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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