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Tom, this is all nonsense, and the point is not what I did or did not
do in the past, it is what I do now. I learned to gas dive prior to
diving with Gavin and Parker, and Nafe and I did it together. We put
Bulhmann on a spread sheet, made the gas, and dove. Later I sought
Hamilton's advice on tables. Nafe is not in the dive business, he runs
Safari Inernet.

 Gavin and I later dove together and  worked out what are now the WKPP
standards by seeking good information and through our experience doing
this type of diving, something you have yet to participate in for the
first time. Look at your own track record of fighting me and my
predecessors on this all the way tooth and nail.

  If you are somehow trying to discredit me, Tom, with what I may have
done in the past, like the narcosis club dives on wrecks out here , you
are wasting your time. I am not in the dive business, do not care, and
have achievements that neither you nor anyone who subscribes to the
methods you preach will ever do or understand, and you have proved that
for the last several years.
 
  Nobody but the worst strokes are interested in deep air, or other
nonsense - keep it to yourself. If you want to argue with members of my
team about teaching it, go ahead, it just gets funnier and
funnier,especaily when you threaten them , and with your bad behavior
lately I will not do anythig but laugh.

  JJ is the one who started and runs the new training agency , not me .
Attack him if that is what your problem is, and see what kind of
response that gets you . You are looking very petty and small,
especially whan all we tried to do is help you.

 Leave me out of this crap - I have a project to run and no time for
bullshit, deep air, or anything esle. We no longer have to try to teach
pigs to sing - Gavin was right, Parker was right, we all were right, and
now we are moving on.


Tom Mount wrote:
> 
> Richard/G
> George was not in the orginal WKPP, in fact very few of the orginal
> members are diving with WKPP at this moment.
> 
> I did not state IANTD did mix before WKPP . I did not even mention WKPP,
> just that George was doing air dives on the RB (270 feet)while we were
> teaching mix. He very well may have been doing gas dives on other dives
> as well. He did do gas dives with Dan Nafe as he stated. Dan Nafe was
> certified as a nitrox instructor in 1992, and  he also did a cave course
> with me. He then started teaching trimix on his own and I guess George
> was his student I did not know that until George stated it in his recent
> post.
> 
> Dan also developed one of the dive planning software programs mig plan
> that was popular for awhile. I do not know if the software is still
> available or not. I actually thought George was trained by Parker and
> Gavin on gas much earlier than 1992, thought it was in 91 or even 90,
> right after his cave course with Parker guess I was wrong. It is not
> important and something I could care less about.
> Tom
> richard todd wrote:
> >
> >    tom wrote something about iantd been teachin mix longer then wkpp divers
> > have been diving it, but according to their web page, tom mount wasn't even
> > involved with iantd until 1991, and it was 1992 that they started teaching
> > this stuff. when was it the wkpp boys started playing with helium again?
> > 1986? doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
> >     i done also noticed that iantd now offers more specialties then that
> > 1-800-pay-padi place, what with that intermediate trimix, resort nitrox,
> > open water (and a seperate open water nitrox), over head nitrox modeling,
> > deep wreck trimix modeling, and all. i can understand how business has soard
> > there.
> >     tom, it's not that we don't love ya', it's just that we're sick of
> > seeing people die for dumb ass shit like deep air - dick
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