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Jeremy and Jim, it is in fact a VIOLATION of IANTD standards to teach trimix or whatever they call the deep trimix without first teaching "deep air" to 160. We at WKPP have solved this problem, and the problem of the other agency nonsense by starting our own training agency , run by Jarrod Jablonski. In this agency, which already is up and running, one can not only "do it right" one can learn form guys who do it for real, like me and the rest of the WKPP divers. We will all be assisting this effort in our own areas of expertise, and participating in the diving with students, to offer something that really counts - the combined experience of the guys who really do it. I would especially like to thank Bret Gilliam for calling up my guys and convincing them to do what I have been trying to get them to do all along, and Tom Mount for his last "standaards" post - those two items put it in motion. > !!!!!!!!!******** B U L L S H I T A L E R T *********!!!!!!!!! > > (read this post all the way through) > > At 01:00 PM 9/5/97 -0400, Ocean Diving Inc. wrote: > >Jer, > >Did you know that the Max. depth limit for IANTD > >Deep Air Training is 130'. Sounds like somebody is feeding you a lot of > bull. I will gladly send you a copy of the Deep Air Course S&P's for your > eval if you would like. Don't be mislead. Lead. > >Semper Deep > >Capt. Jim > >www.oceandiving.com > > Whos feeding who the bull here? I didn't even have to go over to my office > and find my copy of IANTD's standards, all I had to do was go to *your* > website. I found the below quoted items on a direct link from your site. As > a key member of IANTD and an IT shouldn't you already know the standards? As > you can probably tell, I am definitly not trying to "mislead", you guys seem > to already have that covered. > > NOTE: > I copied these directly from IANTD's official website, they are word for > word perfect. Note the depths quoted below and reference them to your > message above. This really blows me away that you just tried to deny that > these courses existed. > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Advanced Deep Air Diver > > This program has been designed to provide safe training to those divers who > carry out diving to depths greater than the commonly practiced depth of 130 > fsw/39 msw. The IANTD Advanced Deep Air Diver program provides training to > 160 fsw/49 msw. It is a tigh tly supervised program concentrating on safety > and control of oxygen and narcosis risk. This program also provides training > in many advanced forms of diving technique. > > Technical Deep Air Diver > > This program has been designed to provide safe training of those few divers > who are committed to diving to greater depths. The IANTD Technical Deep Air > Diver program affords training to 190 fsw/58 msw. It is a tightly supervised > program concentrating on s afety and control of oxygen and narcosis risk. > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > And to think I was giving you the benefit of the doubt when you knew I was > right on the money all along. > > So why then does your orgnization promote several classes on such a known > dangerous practice and actually require it to get to trimix. We both know > the answer don't we? After 130' you should be teaching trimix as part of the > basic deep diving program if you wanted to be truly safe, not just selling a > bunch of classes. Its time for real changes, DO WHATS RIGHT AND SAFE, PLEASE. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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