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John, we see the Society when they come to our dive sites to enach the Medieval stuff, and view it as a omen of what will happen to cave diving if the current BOD members (ex Hires and our guys), and the cast of cave-bashing dive instructors and other self-serving members of the good ole boy red neck club continues to represent cave diving. The WKPP and the NACD are trying to offset that, as is Lamar Hires at CDS, but there is not much he can do alone, and there is not much we can do when these instructors are advertising everywhere and are the first contact that other divers have with caving and tec diving. It has become a real disgrace, and the fact is that our days are numbered if we do not firmly establish a usefulness for ourselves and reduce the steady stream of horror stories . As long as I have been involved these exact same people have had a huge problem with the WKPP and its leadership, and that goes back to when I was the lowest man on the totem pole and not even allowed in the water - they hated Parker, they hated Gavin, and they tried to tell the State we are dangerous and they wrote letters, which we have copies of and did everything else to combat us. Tom Mount anjd other instructors fought Parker tooth and nail on issues of gas mix and gear, just like they do with me now, so absolutely nothing has changed other than the fact that we are now huge, the NACD is now huge and focused on exploration and research and has the best dive trainer in the World as its Training Director ( the same guy who is the TD for WKPP), and we are doing our best to set an example of safety and productivity that will eventually be the choice of divers who want a choice. We will not be teaching any pigs to sing, but then the trying is what got us to do something ( like starting our Marine Division and a new training agency), but rather than sit around bitching about the CDS and the deep air divers, and the other problems, we are going ahead and doing something about it , and our doors are always open to anyone who wants to participate in everything we have to offer. Otherwise, for those who do not, there is always a lot more of what we have witnessed out of people who are supposed to be setting examples, teaching divers, or organizing activites, all of which are horrifying. The WKPP and the NACD will not become anacronisms while the current players, myself included, have anything to do with it. wrote: > > >If we leave it to them, it will end up > >merging wiht he Society for Creative Anachronisms, and we will have > >noplace to dive. > > HEY! > > The Society for Creative Anachronism is a weird place, but it has (and had) > some very good people in it. I spent rather more hours in persona than I > care to remember some days, and met some people I still count as friends > over twenty years later. > > Please don't wish the CDS on them. > > --John -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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