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But Jeoff, you haven't said what you have over there, I've highlighted a small selection of our wrecks. So go for it. Trying to say that Fla. has the diversity and immense number of wrecks that we have over here is pure foolishness, and displays a complete ignorance of our maritime heritage. Obviously you have other wrecks apart from the deliberately sunk ones, but the number of other wrecks is trivial compared to what we have. Remember that you challenged anyone to dispute that Fla. was anything other than number one destination for any technical diving, which is mainly done diving on wrecks. What do you think our viz is generally like over here? 3' is not at all unusual on the shallower wrecks. You'd have to be stupid to dive some of the huge, deep wrecks in poor viz, which is why you go mid-Channel. As far as the helmets go, you can't have dived some of the razor sharp wrecks that we have over here, and remember, small pointy bits of wreck are kind of hard to see in low viz, you must have a sonar embedded in your skull if you can. And a crystal ball to tell you when something's gonna fall on your nut. But I say again, I don't wear a helmet cos I wear a hood, if it was warmer I'd wear a helmet. Steve >At 10:10 AM 6/19/97 +1000, you wrote: >> >>Okay, I'll stick my neck out and say that the wrecks we have all around the >>coast here in the U.K. would generally piss over anything you may have in >>Florida. I give you :Scapa Flow, the D-Day wrecks of Normandy, countless >>mid-Channel war casualties in 60m and gin clear water, countless inshore >>war casualties in not-so-clear water, the Aeolian Sky, the Kyarra, the >>Sound of Mull wrecks, tanks, bombers, Liberty Ships, the Lizard wrecks, >>Land's End, the Lyme Bay wrecks-Salsette et al, Skomer. I could go on. > >Just goes to show how little you know about wrecks in Fla. Your mindset is >set to only what you see on tv, hear on the news, or read about being sunk >in the magz. You should really do your homework before you open your mouth >and insert your foot.. I will give you a chance to change your mind, but to >piss all over Fla's wrecks, well I hope that you have a real big bladder!! > >>As far as technical is concerned, none of our wrecks are "cleaned", as they >>are proper wrecks, anyone likely to get into difficulties will not be >>diving them, we stick those people on the Louis Scheid. >>As for helmets, if I didn't have to wear an 8mm hood, I would definitely >>wear a helmet. Perhaps your cleaned wrecks with the marker arrows to tell >>you which way to go aren't very old, or suffered blast damage, or likely to >>drop pieces, but you would often resemble something from Night of the >>Living Dead on surfacing if you had no head protection diving around here. >>A thick hood is normally sufficient. If there's no need for head protection >>where you dive, the need for head protection elsewhere doesn't make those >>people strokes, it just means they're diving more challenging wrecks. Who's >>the stroke now? > >You are!!.. Because you, still have not made any since of what you are >trying to say.. You are telling me according to what you are stateing here >that you do not know how to use your head to get around these so called >hard wreck dives. That you need a helmets to protect your head. Hmm means >that all your are doing is going blind, not watchin were you are going, >eyes closed, playing the bull in the china shop type wreck diving. You are >so missed informed. Get you head outa your butt buddy. You mindset thinks >that we dive nothing but cleaned bottom trash, welp try again. No problem >that you wear a thick hood, it is understandable that you dive those chilly >waters, so go for it.. > >Hmmm tides, how about I give you tides and 1 - 2 foot viz. See, because >you are so missed informed, you think that all we do is dive the panzy >stuff, well thinks again... > >>As far as currents are concerned, most wreck dives here are strictly slack >>water dependent, often with a "no slack" window, eg the Kyarra on springs. >>Imagine ascending to your stops and meeting the 2' dia shot buoy at 15m... > >Seen it, done it!! > >>We train our divers to deal with this kind of diving as routine, because it >>is. Your caves in Florida may be fantastic, but wrecks. Gimme a break. > >So Steve, now that you have some what of a clue of what life is about in >fla, try to get your head outa your butt and see that there is more to >Florida than just what you think there is.. > >>Steve >> >Jeoff -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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