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At 04:53 PM 6/18/97 -0400, you wrote: >Listen you guys: "flaming" means mail-bombing, and while I am very good >at it, and have a T-1 fiber optic link, I have never done it to the >list, only to a few of my favorites.Also, "slander" is something that is >not true. I have never "slandered". > Getting back to the point. I am primarily an ocean diver, and the >evolution of my equipment is in response to that , not cave diving. On a >wreck, for example, the curent can come up and whip, much more of a >problem with drag than will ever be found in cave diving. Gear for ocean >needs to be far cleaner than cave, and you will find that the true >strokery out there has come from wreck diver imitations of mutant red >neck cave diver convolutions. Also, when you get hung up in a cave, the >knife usually solves the problem. In a wreck , you can be dealing with >wire and metal, and be pinned by the current. So true, so true. George, you know as well as I do, on some of the wrecks in this area, you might have to be dropped anywere from 1/4 mile to 1/2 mile up curent just to be able to drift down to a wreck to tie off on some days. Having been out there, seen it and done it, most people on here don't use the thing that God put on their shoulders. Even though alot of the wrecks in this area have been cleaned to not let the diver get into a deal as to put their life in danger, it still happen due to the fact that 1) they don't get the real training that they need, 2) the instuctors feed the newbies a line of bull beacuse they do not understand the true way to DO IT RIGHT. Folks, don't take me wrong on this, there are a few, and I mean a FEW insturtors that do understand what it means to do it right!!.. But most of them are controled by the all mighty dollar, and will do anything to get it, almost like a street whore.. But hey, it is your life, and all that anyone can do is to inform you and make you aware of what the hell is going on. > > Trying to tell me that common sense in diving means nothing coming from >me because I am a "cave diver" is silly. Hose stuffing, butt-mounting, >helmet-wearing, etc. is all the more stupid in the ocean , and really >convoluting your gear and dressing up like a clown may in fact save your >life in cave diving by preventing you from getting too far into the >cave, and I certainly owe a "thank you" to all of the strokes out there >who have been kind enough to buffoonize themselves and their students to >the point that they can get nowhere near where the explorations are >taking place, leaving me tons of new cave to explore EVERY time I go >diving. HELLO!!, and I am a wreck diving from Ft Luderdale, as my friend >Ray knows from diving with me here. George, good point, Common Sense has everything to do with it.. Like I stated befor, if you do not use what was put on your shoulders, you will loose it in the long run!! The hose stuffing, butt-mounting, helmet-wearing ect, goes back to the uninformed, and missed trained insturtors!! So let them do what they must, and then when it comes time for the Shit to hit the fan, they can call the recovery team to get they out of what ever happen, in a body bag that is.. > > The strokes and instructors out there just tell you that I am this or >that, a Nazi, etc, when in fact if they had a clue, they would have >something to show for it. Ignore them, and do it right. Ask Tom Mount: >we sit down here all summer and catch all the lobsters, and then come up >there and smoke all the cave. Ft Lauderdale is the technical diving >capital of the world. Folks, Ft lauderdale is the Technical Diving capital of the world. Or better yet, I will take it one step further, and say the state of Florida is the Technical Diving Capital. If you would like to challange this, step on up and try to prove it wrong. The diversity of what is here in Florida is beyond the doubt, a number one, just come on down and try it. But for Gawd sakes, don't Hose stuff, butt-mount,wear helmets or anything else that would make you look like the stroke that you shouldn't be. J ************************************ Respiratiory Therpist Divemaster Ft Lauderdale, Florida **** This is the real deal!!! ***** -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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