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Fuck liability. And fuck you to all you fucking lawyers out there. Bunch of blood-sucking leeches, you're ruining our country. Q: What do you call a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the ocean? A: A good start. On 5/20/97 2:18 PM KybrSose@ao*.co* wrote: > I'd just like to throw my two cents at this. It seems that there are certain >procedures that certain people proscribe as being necessary for the handling >of o2 in the United States.(what i'll call the US standard) Others outside >the US ( Capt Thorton)and some inside the US( WKPP) claim that these >standards are unnecessary as they may well be.(what i'll call the Technical >Standard) Why can the Technical Standard group use o2 safely while ignoring >the warnings of the US standard?? > The answer lies i think in the word liability. Those using the US standard >are probably giving their advice tempered by the fear of lawsuits, a common >problem in the US. The Technical Standard people have found what they >consider the true physical limits of safe o2 handling and want to pass this >info along. However when those who are unsure of the Technical Standard >group turn to the US standard group they are told conflicting information >because the US standard does not want to be involved in any way with an >accident or a fatality or injury. > Those using the Technical Standard are probably less concerned with >lawsuits and more concerned with cost and ease of use. > Which standard is correct??? Like many things in life it all depends. It >must be remembered that no matter what standards you use O2 is still o2 and >will always be prone to burn in the presence of fire and fuel. O2 is >dangerous. Each person must seek out the advice of those he finds reliable >and follow that advice. No one can assure complete safety so one must decide >what standard one is comfortable with. If you need to put stickers on tanks >and pay money to have gear cleaned ( which i have done in the past but am >reconsidering) then do that. If others are saying that they can do certain >things and they "get away" with them and you feel comfortable following that >advice then do it. If you feel the need to state your standard because you >feel others are not following your standard and you need to issue a warning >to them to assuage your conscience go ahead. But, as George can tell you, >just because you know what your doing doesnt mean others will listen. > You should also consider, in the US, the local fire codes and zoning >ordinances. I know several people who are "garage blenders" and who keep K >cylinders of O2 in their attached garages. This is definately a violation of >the local fire code and can carry a stiff fine and/or criminal penalty. Also >to be considered is the insurance for this property; your residental policy >may have a disclaimer thats absolves the insurance co from paying for an >accident that was an intentional violation of a local ordinance. If you blast >your fill whip and K bottle out the window and kill the kid next store you >may have bigger problems that the ppo2 in your mix. And remember in Diving >nothing is 100% certain;you can follow all the rules and still get bent like >a pretzel . > Remeber its your decision--thats dive store bastard whose sucking the cash >out of your(and Mine)pocket is also absorbing the liability of an >accident--Maybe its a better deal than you thought. Again everybody has to >decide for themselves--mommie isnt here to help you anymore. > I now have to say that the above information was presented for your >information and entertainment only. Nothing i have said should be considered >legal or technical diving instruction or advice. If you have questions about >the law in your locality contact an attorney. If you have diving questions >ask someone qualified to answer them. > If ive wasted your time i apologize and if i said something stupid im sure >youll let me know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > safe >diving, > Al >Marvelli >P.S. Ive been diving in the Northeast for about 4 years(85 logged open water > dives) and have Andi Nitrox and Padi certs to rescue. Im also a first year >law student. -ajm >-- >Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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