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Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:43:04 -0400
To: gmirvine@sa*.ne*
From: "Paul E. Pettennude" <pettennude@us*.ne*>
Subject: George Irvine
Cc: cavers@ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com, wreckdiver@wr*.co*
George,

If you remember I posted a medical study which claimed that nitrous oxide
levels contributed to narcosis.  I repeat, I simply posted the results of a
study.  I did not conduct the study nor am I an expert in narcosis research.

By my simple act of posting the data you have repeatedly berated me.  I
really don't care how you react to me, nor is it important.

George,  I'm not trying to laud degrees over your head.  And, I'm sorry if
I gave you that impression.  I have a large number of scientists who work
for governments in Central America and Mexico who I think could greatly
benefit from the information exchanged in the technical groups.  The
problem is, the first time you responded it would create an international
incident.  I for one would not like you calling the Director of Underwater
Archaeology for the Honduran government a stroke and every other foul name
you can think of.

In the name of decency can't you just try to clean up your public image?
Is this too hard?  How can we help?

Paul

At 03:06 PM 5/16/97 -0400, you wrote:
>Paul, how do you think I react when a guy like you , who signs PhD
>behind his name, says that "nitrous oxide is formed in the brain while
>diving"? What is "academic diving"? Is that wehre you strut around
>claiming to be a really improtant guy while doing absolutley nothing?
>You pretend to be an "instructor", and you are in fact a dangerous
>idiot, like most of them. Start an archeology list, and maybe you will
>see picture of your gear config scrawled on a cave wall someplace.I can
>not belive you are enough of a condesceding cocksucker to say that the
>Mexicans are way behind you - you have no clue. The Mexican scientists I
>dive with would see you as a violation of rule number one . You just
>want to dispense stupid advice on here with out me calling you a
>complete fucking idiot, which , with or without a PhD, you clearly are.
>I also hear you are a bonesmuggler. Why don't you tell your pal Pilar
>Luna about how that works - start with feltching. Start your own list -
>the diving bonesmugglers who pretend to be scientists.
>
>  Paul, there is a cave science list. Ask Dr. Haris Martin about it, he
>will put you on , as long as you keep the really stupid stuff, like what
>you put on here and rec.scuba , to a bare minimum. He can put you in
>touch with guys who won't tell you to suck their dick, they will
>actually do it.
>
>Paul E. Pettennude wrote:
>> 
>> George,
>> 
>> I don't know what you're talking about half the time and I have a Ph.D.
>> degree. What I would like is for you to try and conduct yourself like a
>> member of the human race while on the Internet.  As an academic diving
>> professional I find your postings embarrassing.  You seem like a
>> knowledgeable guy.  Why can't you write like one and cut out all the
>> profanity.  I have other underwater archaeologists who I would like to join
>> the technical diving groups, but I can't as long as you post the kinds of
>> messages you do.
>> 
>> I understand your frustration, but try to see things from another
>> perspective as well.  I am director of some very important international
>> underwater archaeological projects in Belize and Mexico.  I would like to
>> get the entire INAH Underwater Archaeology Group of Mexico reading the
>> postings.  They are years behind us.  The director is wonderful lady by the
>> name of Pilar Luna.  How do you think she would react to the stuff you
post?
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> At 10:10 PM 5/15/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> >Paul, are we talking about that idiot Palmer again? Dead, Paul from
>> >diving deep on air with a bunch of known strokes and deep air
>> >practicioners. Wake the fuck up.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Jim Cobb wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On 5/15/97 6:14 PM Paul E. Pettennude wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Group,
>> >> >
>> >> >Don't you just want to hug George and give him a big kiss on his
cheek for
>> >> >being such a warm and caring guy.
>> >>
>> >> You ain't one o' them bonesmugglers, are ya, nudeboy?
>> >>
>> >>    Jim
>> >
>
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