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From: "Ted Green" <scuba@md*.co*>
To: gmirvine@sa*.ne*
Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 00:15:02 +0000
Subject: CONGRATULATONS GEORGE!
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Date:          Wed, 14 May 1997 07:26:57 -0400
> From:          George Irvine <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
> Reply-to:      gmirvine@sa*.ne*
> To:            Ted Green <scuba@md*.co*>
> Cc:            techdiver@aquanaut.com
> Subject:       Dive Shop Savants - The PROBLEM

       Congratulations George,
              You are doing much better at your e-mail. Since I have 
been correcting you, you now are able ridicule in complete sentences, 
your spelling is much improved, and this is the first time I have 
received mail from you without one of your sexual fantasies. You may 
not think I am much of an instructor, but I have gotten you to do 
this in only three days. Nobody else has been able to do this in 
three years!
       I think your ready for the advanced communication course. This 
course is called "Reading For Comprehension". In this course we 
teach you how to read and comprehend before flaming.
       But first lets set the record straight. You may need to enlist 
the help of the person who showed you how to use your Spell Check. 
Have them show you how to use the Techdiver Archives, so that 
everything I say here you can verify if you choose to.
      1. I never said that I promote Air diving to 200'. I said I 
couldn't condone it below 200'. Personally, I use Trimix below 150', 
use an END of 130', and plan such dives with a PO2 of 1.4 or less. I 
also sell it and promote it's use for the obvious benefits. Obviously 
you confuse "condone" with "promote".
      2. As for "dive store wizzard", if you check my posts on 
"Techdiver" for the last 6 months, you find I know more about 
Scubapro regulators, OMS equipment and steel tanks in general than 
99.9% of the people on "Techdiver" ( including you ).
      3. I am 6' and weigh 165 lbs., no gut , no beard.  I am in the 
water on average of three days every week and log over 100 ocean 
dives every year. I am not some desk jockey that scuba dives on the 
weekend for a hobby.
     4. Finally, I knew Rob Palmer although not well. I met and talked
with him on 3 or 4 occasions in the last two years. The subject of 
deep air diving never came up, and I would say that he seemed a very 
decent individual ( is that a term your familiar with george? ).

       Now it's time for your "Reading For Comprehension" course.
The question I asked you 3 or 4 posts ago went as follows:

George wrote:  Bob, I do not respect anyone's right to fuckup diving 
                         for all of us - the deep air guys are ignorant strokes
- both
                         living and dead - G.

Ted wrote: George, do cave divers feel the same way with regard to 
                   how far you push the envelope for your project and 
                   the repercussions to them in the event of your 
                   untimely death? If there is a difference what is it?

      Most people would not comprehend this to compare your diving to 
Palmer, but how you death during your project might effect 
accessibility of caves to cave divers in the future. 
 
George should have responded with something like: 
          Ted,
              our dives our for explorational and scientific purposes 
and fall out side the realm  and don't effect normal cave divers.

George if this is more or less what you believe, why don't you say it 
like this instead of your normal diatribe?

Ok George, It's your turn to respond. Remember what you have learned 
so far:
     1.  Complete sentences
     2.  Spell Check
     3.  None of your sexual fantasies
     4.  Read and Comprehend before responding

      Ted Green 

      
> Ted Green wrote:
> > 
>   Ted, let's get out the scorecard before we jump on here and start
> making judegements: you are a dive shop wizzard who is incapable of
> distinguishing deep air records form cave diving exploration. You are
> what is wrong with diving. People come into the dive shop, get lied to
> by a half wit, like you, take dive lessons , buy all the wrong stuff,
> and then hear about how they too can be a big hero diver by diving deep
> on air, and how they will learn to "handle it", and how you , the big
> time Ted Green, probably some huge fat bearded slob with a pendulous gut
> , weezing and slobbering over your merrit badges, "dive 200 on air
> comfortably" ( YOU IGNORANT FUCK), so they can have some great
> achievement to look forward to accomplishing . You have no information
> of any value, you have never done anything of any value, you understand
> nothing, and you want to critcize me and my group while extolling the
> virtues of some idiot who killed himself diving deep on air, and to top
> it off , you do not even know the guy, the history, or anything else -
> you just wanted to take a shot at me. Fact is, big boy, guys like you
> are why we have diving accidents, why we have money wasted on crap gear,
> and why we have so many misinformend people out there. Keep up the good
> work, and go sell some more force fins.
> 
>   Ted, since when does some floor-mopper like you determine what
> "degree" is necessary for cave exploration? Do you know what degrees I
> hold?
> 
>   Ted, somebody just emailed me and told me the real scoop on you - as
> soon as I get up off the floor from laughing, I will let you know.
> 
> 
Ted Green (owner)                
Tidewater Aquatics (Dive Store)  
Salisbury Maryland USA
TDI IT #029
SSI MI #178

The world contains but three types of people:
            1. Those who make things happen.
            2. Those who watch things happen.
            3. Those who wonder what happened.
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