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Thankyou for this info. I have moved 3 times this year and TDI is having trouble getting stuff to me. This appears correct, as others have posted same. I guess I am out of standards. I guess I will have to stop teaching all together. Darn. Just when i was getting rich. Not! Trout At 07:09 PM 5/13/97 +0000, Michel Therrien wrote: >There are some changes in the TDI standards for 1997. > >For instance, the maximum training depth for the extended range diving >course is now 218 fsw. 6 dives totalling at least 100 minutes of bottom >time are required as follows: > >. all must be deeper than 100 fsw >. 2 must be deeper than 130 fsw >. 2 must be deeper than 160 fsw >. no more than 2 dives may be credited from previous diving > >The course can no longer be teached w/o exceeding 130 fsw. > >Other changes affect the depth limitation for the staged decompression and >advanced nitrox programs. The max depth used to be 160 fsw. Now it is 130 >fsw. It leaves a gap of nearly 90 feet between advanced nitrox and >extended range (I personally do not support such a big gap - I don't >support air training at 218 feet either BTW). > >Michel Therrien > > > >At 09:18 PM 5/13/97 +0000, Jesse Armantrout wrote: >>Ted, >>You obviously don't have a clue. It's ok. Most of us don't, or at least >>didn't at one time. We've been sucked in by the hype and macho attitudes >>that have been presented in the tech magazines, at the tech conferences and >>from the tech agencies. There is no reason to plan deep dives on air. >>Period. Teaching deep air to 200 is insane. >> >>You need to reread the standards. Nowhere does it say you have to take >>people to 200. It just defines a max, no min. Per TDI standards (1996 >>version...sorry I do not have the 1997 with me but I think it is the same) >>the TDI extended range diver course, formerly called Technical Deep Air, can >>be taught without exceeding 130 fsw. >> >>When I took my trimix course, we were encouraged to run END's as high as >>possible based on our performance in our deep air course. If we handled 200 >>in deep air, 175 was END for trimix. We were taught to fear helium. Why? >>We did not understand it. Helium is your friend. Take advantage of it. >>Make your students plan END's of 130, po2's of 1.4 MAX regardless of the >>course. Tom Mount, Bret Gilliam, tell us why we should be teaching air >>below 130? Anybody? >> >>As for George, well, yeah he is an asshole, God Bless Him. If not for him, >>I would probably be as dead as Rob. I too was riding the deep air train to >>hell. I liked the buzz. I admit it. My comfort zone was up to 300. What >>a fucking joke. Now I dread going back onto air for deco after a mixed gas >>dive. If the worst gmi does is dispenses info that saves lives while coming >>across as a jerk who can't spell is that so bad? >> >>As for comparing gmi pushing the envelope with what Rob did, well I am sure >>that we do not need to rehash that except to say the former is doing >>dangerous dives as safely as possible while the later just makes no sense. >> >>Think about it, buddy. You will come up with the rigt answers yourself. >> >>Trout >> >>"Stupidity is often self-correcting" >> >>-- >>Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >>Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> >> > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send list subscription requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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